Count To Five

[multi_s]

Hi,

Ya thanks for your feedback.Re point 1) Right now when you power down the quantization setting is reset to non quantized. Definitely what you suggested will be updated in the first firmware update re power down. Also i will add 2 more q modes: major/minor 7th chords.

re point 2) I haven't thought about that much till now but certainly things like what you suggest would be possible. For example on an older pedal i made with tap tempo, there was a pot for tempo and a soft switch, whichever had been changed more recently took precedence. Maybe something similar should be applied here.

any other feedback is quite helpful so please do let me know what you think.

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[Eric!]

Except for expression pedals like the Moog EP-2, which has a pot for the upper limit!! Knobs setting the start point would be raaaad. Maybe a universal expression toe-down srtting knob by the expression jack?

[corbetta]

I like Scott's idea of having the "last modified" knob or pedal setting take precedence. I also would like to see a wider knob range for 1:1 ratio/speed, on either side of the knob. Think of it as a "bigger target" even in non-quantized mode.

[corbetta]

^^ yes, I meant a sort of "uneven" quantization, with a wider "window" of the knob around unison. I don't think the knob can be that precise to begin with--we're looking at more than 4800 cents worth of pitch change in about 270 degrees of turning range...I'd be happy to sacrifice some precision "off" the unison if it meant having a better chance of landing on the unison when needed

(I can hear Scott going "just turn on 5th/octave quantization and shut up!)

[SecretMachine]

someone needs to compile a manual for this pedal.
seriously seriously loving mine though. so many sweet crazy and beautiful sounds possible.
i was worried initially that utilising it for like non crazy sounds wouldn't be possible, but there's an abundance of beautiful sounds on tap.

[Eric!]

I get so many electronica ideas...this and a BEFpro and hot hand. Yeeeeee! Gotta get one

[Inconuucl]

Is there a cut off date to get this pedal? I'm reaching critical GAS here but lack the required funds.

[neonblack]

I don't think so. Fingers crossed, cause I won't be able to get one till Feb-March probably.

[Inconuucl]

That beautiful tax break money.

[multi_s]

Is there a cut off date to get this pedal? I'm reaching critical GAS here but lack the required funds.

No I don't think so. It will be around till at least mid 2015 I would guess. I would like to release at least 2 other firmwares for this hardware so i doubt both will be out before april/may of next year, although hopefully the first one will be around in Feb.

[neonblack]

That beautiful tax break money.

[askashrub]

Gentlemen, I see there is good bit of GAS of going on here.
But not enough.
I wanted to make sure the Count to Five is the only thing you can think about.
You're welcome!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fpAFzXC-to[/youtube]

[SecretMachine]

sounds crazy but i'm tempted to purchase another one of these.
askashrub that demo is INCREDIBLE.

i have some technical questions.
1) with regards to the quantization function, if i set that quantization to what I want it to be and then turn off the pedal/depower it, does it lose it's quantization? (i haven't had chance to check yet)
2) i noticed that with my pedal it doesn't seem like it's unity gain at 12 o clock, it's more like 2pm (pretty much exactly the same as the setting in the above image thumbnail), can this be adjusted by altering the internal gain?
3) is there any chance of a break down of the delay times in mode 2? not anything specific, but there's 6 different settings right? a delay time relative to the position of the knob breakdown would be sweet!

really loving this pedal. going to use it to write some songs with my band for sure!

[Joe Gress]

As far as the quantization function, you have to reset it each time you turn it on. I think the nexts firmware update is supposed to make it so that it'll power up with the last quantization setting used.

[multi_s]

Gentlemen, I see there is good bit of GAS of going on here.
You're welcome!

Thank you! Great job (:

sounds crazy but i'm tempted to purchase another one of these.
askashrub that demo is INCREDIBLE.

i have some technical questions.
1) with regards to the quantization function, if i set that quantization to what I want it to be and then turn off the pedal/depower it, does it lose it's quantization? (i haven't had chance to check yet)
2) i noticed that with my pedal it doesn't seem like it's unity gain at 12 o clock, it's more like 2pm (pretty much exactly the same as the setting in the above image thumbnail), can this be adjusted by altering the internal gain?
3) is there any chance of a break down of the delay times in mode 2? not anything specific, but there's 6 different settings right? a delay time relative to the position of the knob breakdown would be sweet!

really loving this pedal. going to use it to write some songs with my band for sure!

Answers:
1) yes right now it loses q mode. In the future it might not.

2)You can only decrease the wet signal. There is some discussion earlier in this thread re this topic. Since this pedal layers many or a few copies of sound, naturally the wet signal when laying 2 or 3+ copies seems louder than the dry, which is only 1 copy. "unity gain" as a precise position on teh mix knob is then a bit difficult to define, in some settings you might feel like clean and wet are even at noon, in others you might have to show up early or late. But yes if you open it and turn the blue trimpot labelled "gain" on the pcb counter clockwise you can lower the signal going into the DSP which has the effect of lowering the wet volume.

3) There should be 9 settings. It's not exactly the delay time, maybe the "max delay time" at 1:1 speed/dir. So "Len B" is short for Buffer length. And time here would refer to "the amount of time it takes the playback head to read through the entire buffer at normalized playback speed (1:1)". The 9 settings are 1/32, 1/16. 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8 seconds. Every buffer is half/twice as long as the next/previous setting. Probably that is a bit confusing at this point, particularly if your thinking of a traditional delay in your head, but i will make some videos with diagrams to show what is happening, it's actually rather simple, but the end result is that the actual delay time is constantly changing unless you have it in 1:1 forward mode (wtf?). So it doesn't really make sense to think about "delay time", but "buffer length" is more appropriate.

^^ yes, I meant a sort of "uneven" quantization, with a wider "window" of the knob around unison. I don't think the knob can be that precise to begin with--we're looking at more than 4800 cents worth of pitch change in about 270 degrees of turning range...I'd be happy to sacrifice some precision "off" the unison if it meant having a better chance of landing on the unison when needed

(I can hear Scott going "just turn on 5th/octave quantization and shut up!)

haha no i agree it is different things. I think the revolver also has this sort of "unity speed dead zone"? Another possibility i thought of is to have quantization but also some sort of glissando speed, although obvs you could not have a dedicated knob for it at this point. But maybe as you hold the soft to select the q mode, you can also twist another knob to set the glissando speed for the quantized modes.

OK! thanks again Knobs for the beautiful video.