Dowi wrote:
A problem that should be considered / and it's starting to be considered here/ is that the number of deaths is not really certain because a lot of elderly people are dying in their homes and retirement homes without being tested, so the mortality rate is approximately less than what is for real.
There is a chance it's just the opposite:
Average age of death is 80, over 50% have at least 3 pre-existing comorbidities (Myocardial ischemia, Diabetes, Kidney disease, Arteriosclerosis, etc), and Italy has just been chalking up all deaths in hospitals of infected to Covid, meaning the person could have actually died of something else whilst having it.
"The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.
"On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three," he says." (Walter Ricciardi, who is the scientific adviser to Roberto Speranza, Italy's minister of health)
Italy has a shitty method for collecting data on Covid deaths.
Out of this study of 481, only 6 had no pre-existing conditions (I would bet they were 75 or older).
Chance of death for under 50 if infected is 0.4%. I'm really curious what that number would be if people with pre-existing condiions were removed, if it is anything like the study posted, would that be 1.2% of 0.4%?
Over 24,000 people died in Italy 2017 of the flu, over 70% dying in flu season (Jan-March). The vast majority of deaths last year occurred in Lombardy. So roughly 16,800 people died in a couple months in the 2017 flu season in Italy. Around 4000 people have died in the past couple months from this one (and that is with Italy's shitty methodology padding the numbers).
I didn't see headlines about Italy having to call in the army to dispose of bodies then...
Worst part is I've been getting the runaround from all the various state/county health departments and hospitals and haven't even talked to a doctor about my symptoms, so that's pretty frustrating.
