Olin wrote:Double-posting this because more people check this thread, I'll update further info in the DNG thread.
Made by Kevin Bernsten at Developing Nation Guitars, it's 24.75" with 24 frets, pretty chunky neck, walnut body, neck thru (obviously) and p90's wound by him.
That really sucks you hate it. It looks great! I love mine but agree on it being to heavy. I have a ghost (SG with acrylic body)and I need to figure something out with a better strap to hopefully help with the weight because I can't stand and play it for more than 20 minutes without my back killing me.
Thanks for your sympathy. It is kind of funny to order something this expensive and hate the end result. I expected jests when posting. Don't kick a downed ILFer. Thanks.
Going to search for a wider strap, maybe with extra padding. I am sure my search results will take me to the 65+ section of TGP. Might also try to hold it more of an angle, crab core style.
Weighed my guitars last night:
EGC TT1, 24.75" is 10 lbs 1.25 oz. Neck thickness starts at 0.59" at the bridge.
EGC500, 30" is 11 lbs 6.75 oz. Neck thickness is unknown at this point.
Funny how it feels so much heaver than a mere 1.3 pounds.
Lots of random thoughts. I may just be too used to having one thin neck guitar. Maybe I am really just a "one guitar guy." Issues with this new guitar are probably magnified by some old untreated work injuries and repetitive motion like holding the steering wheel lazily or typing with bad posture. Plus getting older. I checked my machismo at the door so I can say it is pretty fucking useless to fight a guitar that causes pain or otherwise too heavy but I have to try. If it didn't sound amazing it would be easy to let go. I have some amazing local friends that would probably take it off my hands if it comes to that.
The other thing is this pickguard is fugly. Acid finish is so random but it really just looks unfinished and sticks out. If the guitar stays it will likely get sanded to a flat or brushed finish. Could polish or rattle can it too. Also hate the way the guard is routed around the bridge with a little notched out section. I should be able to rework that edge and make it a nicer line. Nit picky, maybe, but whatevs.
Edit: failed to mention there is a bit of neck dive. Part of the source of pain in my left wrist and forearm when trying to fret around the thick neck while simultaneously holding the neck up.
Any wide, suede strap goes a long way to gripping the guitar in place and feeling like the weight is distributed a little better. Their acid-dipping is super inconsistent too, when I placed my last and final order with them I asked twice if they had any control at all over the acip dipping process or manipulate it in any way to affect how it might turn out and they..... ignored it both times and refused to tell me .
If you don't really like it though, is it worth messing around with the finish? Someone else might be really into it and leave you with enough money to get something you might enjoy more, without lowering the price by modifying it. Maybe keep your eye out for a baritone Tyranny? When I had mine it had a painfully thin neck for me, same pickups and stuff as yours and only 2/3 of the price, have some moolah left over for something else.
neonblack wrote:Do you ever just sit back and take a good look at yourself and realize all your riffs are shit and you're a garbage musician?
I love my current EGC but on this page are two examples of buyers who were left waiting for 4+ years and I have been waiting for 6+ years for a different one than I currently own.
Who takes money and then does not deliver for 4-6+ years? No one with the kind of ethics I understand.
They offered to refund me last year but no, you don't get to take my money, make payroll and buy materials and then 6 years later not give me a return on that investment. If the guitar you quoted me 6 years ago was $2000 and now it is $4000, you owe me twice my deposit. Plus the parts. I sent parts. I wish I had approached Bastin when I had the chance.
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I recently got an EGC Series 2 and I love it. It was not the guitar I ordered, though.
When I first got in touch with Kevin, he was very responsive and enthusiastic but, like everyone else says, eventually stopped responding to most emails. We had an ambitious plan and it wasn't quite like anything else he'd built. After a few years, he said he couldn't build it the way I wanted so I agreed to a Chessie with some modifications. After many more months with no apparent progress, they posted something for sale on Reverb and I wrote to ask if they'd just send me that one. They agreed.
I'd rather have the guitar I originally envisioned or even the second-choice but I do like this guitar very much and don't really have any hard feelings. They should absolutely remove the custom order option from the system, though.
Your story and mine are pretty much the same. I admit mine started as something that was too difficult to build but 3-4 years ago, I agreed to a much simpler build, one that I've seen them do before. About a year ago, they appeared to be motivated and said it would be done by June. Hahahahahahaa
I get it. He took a bunch of money for builds that were too difficult, probably blew through that money to stay in business and now owes a bunch of guitars for what is not, in today's standards, not very much money that would be coming back to him. But that's business and that is not the burden of the clients, that is the burden of the person who takes money for something in return.