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dase wrote:Yup. But my thing with volume is you can usually get a lot of it from a half decent pa, don't necessarily need the amp wall.


The amp wall is REALLY fun though haha.

I don't trust PA's and have never really played in a place that I couldn't easily overpower. I even tried talking my old singer into getting an old Orange or Sound City PA head with cabs to run his own vocals. I also run my keyboards through an amp and cab.

I feel like a thread-killer. I've been listening to the splits with Year of No Light and a couple of thoughts:
1) On the drone front...I really like their work with Thisquietarmy as well as thisquietarmy's work with Aidan Baker....really beautiful ambient/drone.
2) I've been saying for 15 years that I think splits shouldn't actually be splits but collaborations and it looks like there's a bit more of this. Why have each band do a song or two when they can both play together and make something entirely new like those In the Fishtank records that came out a ways back. That being said, I'd love to work with any band rolling through the bay area or even on the west coast that we could travel to and work on some improvised/semi-worked out stuff. We're losing our drummer but I've got a violinist and cellist and we're capable of creating a hell of a noise. I'd be willing to take an extended weekend and go up to Portland/Seattle/wherever or down to LA/San Diego and create a record or play a 3 hour set in an art gallery or forest

^ I agree. having at least ONE collab song on a split is awesome. Im down for a forest jam anytime if you ever come to SW Connecticut!

I agree as well. Also what I would love to hear/do is where you have two artists do the same song and then put both version on at the same time and have them panned left and right

Also a really cool idea!

The Nadja/Black Boned Angel split is like that.

AND IT'S AWESOME!

D.o.S. wrote:The Nadja/Black Boned Angel split is like that.

AND IT'S AWESOME!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_hzvkFi4JU[/youtube]
That is pretty nice

Blackened Soul wrote:

D.o.S. wrote:The Nadja/Black Boned Angel split is like that.

AND IT'S AWESOME!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_hzvkFi4JU[/youtube]
That is pretty nice

YES

dase wrote:Yup. But my thing with volume is you can usually get a lot of it from a half decent pa, don't necessarily need the amp wall.


The amp wall is REALLY fun though haha.

The amp wall, in my mind, is totally necessary. It's about the feel of that many speakers pushing that much air. I don't think there is a PA out there that can reproduce the feeling I get from running multiple amps at volume through as many cabs as possible. It's just otherworldly when set up right. A single note, not even a chord can become a physically felt as well as emotional experience.

louderthangod wrote:I feel like a thread-killer. I've been listening to the splits with Year of No Light and a couple of thoughts:
1) On the drone front...I really like their work with Thisquietarmy as well as thisquietarmy's work with Aidan Baker....really beautiful ambient/drone.
2) I've been saying for 15 years that I think splits shouldn't actually be splits but collaborations and it looks like there's a bit more of this. Why have each band do a song or two when they can both play together and make something entirely new like those In the Fishtank records that came out a ways back. That being said, I'd love to work with any band rolling through the bay area or even on the west coast that we could travel to and work on some improvised/semi-worked out stuff. We're losing our drummer but I've got a violinist and cellist and we're capable of creating a hell of a noise. I'd be willing to take an extended weekend and go up to Portland/Seattle/wherever or down to LA/San Diego and create a record or play a 3 hour set in an art gallery or forest

I would love this, our drummer has the sensibility to pull something like this off. we frequently do improv jams to start our practices off and it often results in new material. I have a (shitty) pa and a house, although I think something like this would deserve an actual venue, or studio, or maybe finding some land to use where we could set up a generator to power everything.
A violin and cello would be so good with the sound we have. especially in an open air environment.

Blackened Soul wrote:I agree as well. Also what I would love to hear/do is where you have two artists do the same song and then put both version on at the same time and have them panned left and right

Would also be very cool if planned out in advance. On a side note I would totes enjoy getting together with you and seeing what our devious little minds could come up with. I think you are relatively nearby. I am in tacoma.

Perhaps we could all figure something out to create something truly special. I would love to be a part of it and would be willing to do what it takes to work towards making it happen.

Now I'm thinking we could get some big collective thing going. Maybe start with one or two people playing and then have it grow and then shuffle things up and have it turn into a nice lengthy session. Record and video the whole thing and put it up as something cool.

I think they call it "In C."

louderthangod wrote:Now I'm thinking we could get some big collective thing going. Maybe start with one or two people playing and then have it grow and then shuffle things up and have it turn into a nice lengthy session. Record and video the whole thing and put it up as something cool.

I may have to put out some feelers to find a venue to do this in. I'm thinking a concert hall would be awesome for the acoustics. I have no idea if this is doable but I like the idea!

I'd be totally down and would do whatever to help get it done. We could also do a series up and down the coast both in and out of actual venues. Just rent a generator and crash some empty park and play till we get kicked out.

Any of you guys ever check out "Chord" (they've got a lot of stuff on bandcamp). It's pretty interesting from a drone perspective. They release mostly live material that is on the longer side (20-minute songs) that are all based around single chords. I believe each person starts off taking one note of that chord. It's certainly an interesting concept that you could really play around with and create some unexpected complexity in the interplay between each person. Like the Cellular Automata theory of simple algorithms repeated over and over again you could really make some amazing stuff. Maybe have people play not just one note and a bunch over several octaves but two notes or three but with different restrictions and have the two notes that each person plays form two different chords or one single chord depending on what they are so you can get these pulsating melodies with in the chords. If you have a couple of people doing this you could really create something powerful and new. People like Glenn Branca have doing interesting things with having an army of guitars doing something simple but I think there is a lot there. I'd be really interested in trying this as well, especially with a mixture of guitars and other instruments.

louderthangod wrote:Any of you guys ever check out "Chord" (they've got a lot of stuff on bandcamp). It's pretty interesting from a drone perspective. They release mostly live material that is on the longer side (20-minute songs) that are all based around single chords. I believe each person starts off taking one note of that chord. It's certainly an interesting concept that you could really play around with and create some unexpected complexity in the interplay between each person. Like the Cellular Automata theory of simple algorithms repeated over and over again you could really make some amazing stuff. Maybe have people play not just one note and a bunch over several octaves but two notes or three but with different restrictions and have the two notes that each person plays form two different chords or one single chord depending on what they are so you can get these pulsating melodies with in the chords. If you have a couple of people doing this you could really create something powerful and new. People like Glenn Branca have doing interesting things with having an army of guitars doing something simple but I think there is a lot there. I'd be really interested in trying this as well, especially with a mixture of guitars and other instruments.

Why don't I live in Oakland?
I wanna do this.

Is anyone using ring mods for their drone work? I was thinking about picking up that new Minifooger ring mod, but having never used one, I am unsure if it'll be particularly useful.