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Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:15 am
by dubkitty
it'll work out eventually. part of my problem is that i tend to throw myself whole-hog into whatever i'm working on and thus get fried and have to switch to something else. after a month working on the Hopf guitar and a week of fucking with the SDS and rack, with a nice little respiratory illness thrown in, my brain is just tired out.

i have four main threads going on right now:
--using the boards/looping
--guitar project stuff (includes acquisitions)
--getting the rack together
--synth stuff

much of this is totally constrained by my economics. i just paid off most of my Pay in 4 and Affirm stuff to make room for future stuff, but only really have disposable income in the second half of the month after the rent is sorted by the first check. Thankfully the boards are largely settled so i don't need to fret about that. but i can only do a bit at a time unless it goes on credit, which is mostly tapped out, or Affirm/Pay in 4. i'm liking Affirm more these days because 1.) they only charge you once a month and 2.) more expensive stuff will fit there.

my near-term plans are:
1. sometime next week if i have the energy i'll go to Atomic up in Maryland where they have a used Epiphone Uptown Kat ES like the one i dug when i tested it at Sam Ash. if i like it and i decide i can do without my AC15 i'll trade it and some other stuff to make it affordable. i should also have store credit in their system from when i sold the Rickenbacker. if i don't want the guitar i'll probably sell them the AC15 and take the other stuff home. if i decide to keep the AC15 this is moot and the "guitar with Firebird pickups" i want will push back. i'm seeing Alabaster DePlume Tuesday night in DC and could tack that onto the itinerary.

2. the rack stuff will go a bit at a time. first i have to get an 8u rack, which fortunately aren't that dear used. then i look for another SP15/PE15 parametric which is about $250. the PE15 is just the SP15 with an external power supply; their functionalities appear identical. PE15s are cheaper. last will be selecting a Lexicon unit, which will be either a MPX1 or an MPX100 depending on whether i can stomach the additional couple of hundred dollars. i don't see any of this being done for awhile. after all, the rack was essentially irrelevant until i started messing with keys and the SDS, and synths are a lower priority than guitars because, well, i'm a guitar player. not that i won't use the rack with guitars--rack units appear on several of the Early Loops--but that's kind of gilding the lily given the complexity of the boards. however, there are so many reverb options between the SPX900 and MidiVerb II and the prospective Lexicon unit that some of them will inevitably make it into my catalog of artificial looping environments. that SPX900 reverb on the SDS test is beautiful, and i haven't even cracked the parameters of anything yet. it has a seventy page manual which frightens me.

3. for the synth stuff the next thing is a Keystep controller, which you can apparently use to play the SDS like a regular synth. after that i have no idea what the fuck to do, but the Moog Grandmother and Minilogue appeal. i also need to send myself to MIDI and CV school so i can comprehend what to do with this stuff which is waaaaaaay outside my areas of expertise.

4. when i've freed up some wiggle room with Affirm, like in a month or 2, i can order the Eastwood Wandré and see if i like it enough to keep. i signed up for their mail list and have a 10% off code. like i said, if i'm not happy with it or think it sucks back it goes.

5. meanwhile looping will go on as normal, though i haven't been playing a lot lately because i've been busy working on the SDS/mixer/rack and getting that working properly and finishing the Hopf project guitar.

so my next task is to play several different guitars through the AC15 and see if i need to keep it or not. at least i don't have anything on my Wanted FX list but the AC Ricorda and the Behringer rerub of the Grampian 636 spring reverb, neither of which are a big priority.

i wouldn't be at all surprised if the rack and synth stuff wasn't totally implemented by the end of the year. i'm kind of terrified of the learning curve, and i'm someone who likes learning new things.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:31 am
by dubkitty
Eastwood's demos of the Soloist are all awful, as one would expect from Ronquillo who i swear makes everything sound the same, but there's a guy apparently in Poland who's done some nice ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnCW8Hhm7aU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Py7fZczck

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:23 pm
by BitchPudding
Zork wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:02 am
BitchPudding wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:59 pm
Now all I gotta do is find a good echo pedal to run my voice through. Anyone got any good recs? A bitch is all ears. :snax:
There are impedance converters available from Shure and from Audix. They cost about 30 bucks and allow you to connect any dynamic microphone to any guitar pedal. Plug the pedal output in a DI box and you're back to microphone level.

This is not only the cheapest but also by far the most comfortable solution because you don't need to mess with another gain stage in your mic signal like you would with the super expensive boxes like Eventide Mixing Link or Radial Voco Loco.

I have the Audix T50 but there also the Shure A85F:

www.thomann.de/intl/audix_t50_k.htm

www.thomann.de/intl/shure_a85f.htm

For delay I use my Boss DD-20. I found clean digital delays to work best with vocals, but if you're into dub, you'll probably disagree... :p
Rad solution, gonna try this. thanks for that! :hug:

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:48 pm
by Gone Fission
dubkitty wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:15 am
2. the rack stuff will go a bit at a time. [snip] last will be selecting a Lexicon unit, which will be either a MPX1 or an MPX100 depending on whether i can stomach the additional couple of hundred dollars.
I keep having PMs I thought I sent disappear, like one I thought I sent about the MPX1 and LXP-15 I have just sitting around staring at the PCM-80. Anyhoo, when you’re there, lemme know—we’ll figure out the fuzz breaux deal (cash or trade) if you want.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 6:52 pm
by dubkitty
cool. i’ll bear that in mind.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:20 pm
by friendship
BitchPudding wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 5:23 pm
Zork wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:02 am
BitchPudding wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:59 pm
Now all I gotta do is find a good echo pedal to run my voice through. Anyone got any good recs? A bitch is all ears. :snax:
There are impedance converters available from Shure and from Audix. They cost about 30 bucks and allow you to connect any dynamic microphone to any guitar pedal. Plug the pedal output in a DI box and you're back to microphone level.

This is not only the cheapest but also by far the most comfortable solution because you don't need to mess with another gain stage in your mic signal like you would with the super expensive boxes like Eventide Mixing Link or Radial Voco Loco.

I have the Audix T50 but there also the Shure A85F:

www.thomann.de/intl/audix_t50_k.htm

www.thomann.de/intl/shure_a85f.htm

For delay I use my Boss DD-20. I found clean digital delays to work best with vocals, but if you're into dub, you'll probably disagree... :p
Rad solution, gonna try this. thanks for that! :hug:
plus the dd-20 got several modes with colorful repeats and a universal tone knob, when you want it

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:01 am
by dubkitty
pulling myself out of NOW mode i’m not going to pursue the Uptown Kat right now. i enjoyed playing the one at Sam Ash, but it didn’t jump into my lap and say “love me” like the Guild Aristocrat i got at Atomic. no need to put on a fast pace when the salient factor is one more type of pickups in my arsenal which stayed low on the Pickups I Want list.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:16 am
by Zork
friendship wrote: Fri Mar 14, 2025 8:20 pm
plus the dd-20 got several modes with colorful repeats and a universal tone knob, when you want it
Precisely! This tone knob is really one of the most useful features, probably even more if the pedal is used with vocals or keyboards than with guitars. It's a great pedal.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:49 am
by dubkitty
i’m watching this echo vocal discussion. i’ve sung most of my life but hardly recorded because like most humans i hate the sound of my own voice, so i’ve never put anything on vox other than reverb which is a given on anything i record. always wanted to do something with multitracking and reverb/echo like David Crosby’s “I’d Swear There Was Somebody Here.” this is Croz processing the death of his girlfriend which is what broke him.


https://youtu.be/4_AFsDgNW2k?si=jZcc9Wdeei1_N2WC

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:51 am
by Gone Fission
dubkitty wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:01 am pulling myself out of NOW mode i’m not going to pursue the Uptown Kat right now. i enjoyed playing the one at Sam Ash, but it didn’t jump into my lap and say “love me” like the Guild Aristocrat i got at Atomic. no need to put on a fast pace when the salient factor is one more type of pickups in my arsenal which stayed low on the Pickups I Want list.
Have you tried the recent Epi Firebird with the sunburst finish? I know the FB is a pain to deal with because its length, but that pickup in a good recreation might tickle the Stephen Stills thing for you more, and might be worth paying a bit more for accordingly. (What I’m seeing on the recent “custom” versions with solid finishes doesn’t seem to justify the upcharge.)

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:00 am
by dubkitty
i have not, but it’s on the list of things to try. i agree on the upcharged finishes, but confess that the Sonic Blue one makes me weak in the knees. i always figured i’d get an Epi Bird, but the UK i tried was very good though perhaps a bit less aggressive than the Firebird players of my past (Stills, Kaukonen, Johnny Winter).

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 8:01 am
by dubkitty
Jorma was big on Firebirds in post-74 Hot Tuna.

i was surprised to see a Epiphone ES-345 with Varitone and realize that there’s still a part of me that wants guitars my heroes played when i was in high school…that’s the guitar i identify Jorma with most. he was a huge influence, particularly his fingerpicking.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:20 am
by Zork
dubkitty wrote: Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:49 am i’m watching this echo vocal discussion. i’ve sung most of my life but hardly recorded because like most humans i hate the sound of my own voice, so i’ve never put anything on vox other than reverb which is a given on anything i record. always wanted to do something with multitracking and reverb.
You just have to forget about your voice and go all in. I always liked to sing but never considered me to be a particular good singer. I was 40 when my current band almost fell apart and I was left with only our drummer. Took the Bass VI, took on singing and we continued as a duo. It was like either I swallow the toad and be a singer/frontman or I don't have a band. Meanwhile we're back to four members and I'm still the main vocalist and it's really very much becoming a wonderful medium of expression for me. Just fuck it and do it. There are people who are close to the band for quite some time and they said, my vocals used to be the weakest part of the band sound but I've grown into it and I was like, yeah, I'm an artist on a journey and either you follow along or you don't. It's good to don't give a fuck and you'll grow into it, too.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:28 am
by Gone Fission
John Lennon also hated the sound of his own voice. And there are too many examples that a person doesn’t need to have a great natural voice for their singing to work. Top exemplar of that in my mind is Britt Daniel of Spoon—would never get a gig as a backup singer but completely compellingly makes it work in his context.

Re: Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2025 9:31 am
by Zork
Lennon also recorded with echo to feel safer.