The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[AxAxSxS]

One of the bands tonight had a sound city 150 bass whatever, guy was running a meatmoke out front and had a sunn 2x15 ported later looking cab, sounded huge and just ballsy. Kinda want one of those heads now for the geetar. My simms is down so I was subbing in the verellen 2203 for flux duty and it just didn't have the headroom at volume. I love that amp, but the simms works better soundwise. I wouln't mind picking up another huge headroom type head for this sort of situation. Has anyone run one fo theose sound city bass doodlies for a 6 strange rig? Any other lowerish priced heads like that that might pop up once in a blue moon?

[conky]

I hate how the 5150 gain channel is too fizzy. Plus is has this harsh frequency that I can't dial out no matter where the settings are. That could be because the preamp tubes are high gain Sovteks. Or were before I swapped them out. Its a little better but the high gain channel is still shit ( The rhythm channel on crunch mode is excellent. I haven't really played with the high gain channel after this) compared to my dirt pedals in front on the clean channel. I like low mids and I think the mids on the 5150 are in the higher mid range. I found a mod to shift the mids down but I've never heard of anyone doing this. Here is is for anyone interested:

http://www.audunmelbye.no/2012/10/10/pe ... ries-mods/

[samzadgan]

Yeah high gain sucks...crunch channel is really good...slight volume boost from fuzz pedal will do wonders to it too!

[ShaolinLambKiller]

I only utilize crunch. high gain is for not good

[HeavyXIII]

Dude. I would be more than happy to take that off your hands if you're not feeling it. I feel like I'm on the hunt for something. I thought having the Coven would solve all my dirt woes. Been playing my buddies' 5150 and I'm kinda feeling it. Who knows.

The Coven would sound great through it. I was messing around with it today with my Pharaoh and Witchburner and after a little bit of tube rolling I got it dialed in really close to my Soldano. The guys from Thou use a 5150 and get huge tone from it but I don't know if they are using the amp alone or using pedals for their dirt.

I saw them open for Sleep a few months ago. (I get the guitarists mixed up) but Matt was using the 5150 with pretty much all the knobs dimed, and Andy had a Music Man HD set really clean and used pedals (channel switching?) for dirt and delay. Their sound was massive, even with only 2 half stacks, and I think the 5150 was a big part too.

[braaandooon]

I hate how the 5150 gain channel is too fizzy. Plus is has this harsh frequency that I can't dial out no matter where the settings are. That could be because the preamp tubes are high gain Sovteks. Or were before I swapped them out. Its a little better but the high gain channel is still shit ( The rhythm channel on crunch mode is excellent. I haven't really played with the high gain channel after this) compared to my dirt pedals in front on the clean channel. I like low mids and I think the mids on the 5150 are in the higher mid range. I found a mod to shift the mids down but I've never heard of anyone doing this. Here is is for anyone interested:

http://www.audunmelbye.no/2012/10/10/pe ... ries-mods/

The 5150 is a fizzy beast for sure. I make matters even worse with mine by running a SG with pig 90's into it. The Boss NS-2 is a godsend for that amp. I run the "X" pattern with the NS-2. Which is basically running your guitar through one input, and your effects loop through the other. Cleans up a fizzy preamp, noisy pickups, and also tightens up your palm mutes.

[ShaolinLambKiller]

I really don't get all the fizz everyone complains about.

[van_muddlestein]

Got a similar score on a 6505+ for $200 several weeks ago, Conky. Fuckin' a. They're fizzy and harsh, but keeping the treble and presence pretty low really helps that. Also, don't get the gain higher than noon on the lead channel and putting the volume at like 1 or 2 o'clock brings out more of the balls and less of the bees.

[D-Day]

One of my favorite things happened at last night's show. Some dude covered his ears with his hands for the whole set. SUCCESS!

[AxAxSxS]

One of my favorite things happened at last night's show. Some dude covered his ears with his hands for the whole set. SUCCESS!

Ha-ha, didn't see that, point this stuff out!

Anyone have any experiance with the weber mywatt 200? Thinking about getting another big headroom head.

[dazedbyday]

I hate how the 5150 gain channel is too fizzy. Plus is has this harsh frequency that I can't dial out no matter where the settings are. That could be because the preamp tubes are high gain Sovteks. Or were before I swapped them out. Its a little better but the high gain channel is still shit ( The rhythm channel on crunch mode is excellent. I haven't really played with the high gain channel after this) compared to my dirt pedals in front on the clean channel. I like low mids and I think the mids on the 5150 are in the higher mid range. I found a mod to shift the mids down but I've never heard of anyone doing this. Here is is for anyone interested:

http://www.audunmelbye.no/2012/10/10/pe ... ries-mods/

The guy from Rosetta works on amps and stuff. He wrote and article about the 5150 and the mods he does: http://atomiumamps.tumblr.com/post/9393 ... -6505-mods

[samzadgan]

You guys are playing low down, right?
You could probably justify the 200, but is it going to do a perceptibly better job than the superbass in most settings.
Plus I'm willing to put dollars on the fact that when you go to record, you're gonna want that Marshall there.

Yeah we play down in B...the main problem i would have is that i want to run dual rig with my pedal board going to both amps...in that scenario a 2 channel amp is useless as i would only be able to use one channel and get all my dirt from pedals. I think if i played a single rig a 2 channel would be ok.

[louderthangod]

A balanced 12AT7 in the phase inverter of most high gain amps really tightens and keeps the highs from getting too thin and brittle at high volumes or so it's been in my experience. I miss just having a "chugga-chugga" amp around the house for fun and have been thinking about getting a 5150 again.

[Iommic Pope]

You guys are playing low down, right?
You could probably justify the 200, but is it going to do a perceptibly better job than the superbass in most settings.
Plus I'm willing to put dollars on the fact that when you go to record, you're gonna want that Marshall there.

Yeah we play down in B...the main problem i would have is that i want to run dual rig with my pedal board going to both amps...in that scenario a 2 channel amp is useless as i would only be able to use one channel and get all my dirt from pedals. I think if i played a single rig a 2 channel would be ok.

Yeah, youd have to be getting all your dirt from pedals. Which is fine. 2 channels is tapdancing.
Tapdancing is not doom.

[emptyparadigm]

One of my favorite things happened at last night's show. Some dude covered his ears with his hands for the whole set. SUCCESS!

Ha-ha, didn't see that, point this stuff out!

Anyone have any experiance with the weber mywatt 200? Thinking about getting another big headroom head.

Man, those Webers look/sound pretty awesome. Can't seem to find 'em used very easily. Would love to pick one up myself!

Also, got some pickups and delay pedals in the BST. DR discount for budz, as per the usual.