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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:12 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Okay so I think I have finally figured out the formula to determine whether or not your amp is doom acceptable.
*Disclaimer* This formula is designed for tube amps.
Legend:
X= Amp wattage
Y= Amp Volume
Z= Amp acceptability
Formula:
(X/10) x Y = Z
Samples:
100w on 8
(100/10) x 10 = 80%
30w on 4
(30/10) x 4 = 12%
50w on 6
(50/10) x 6 = 30%
200w on 10
(200/10) x 10 = 200%
It seems to work out, don't ya think?

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:16 pm
by D.o.S.
Math scares me.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:18 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
D.o.S. wrote:Math scares me.
Which is funny since your the one who basically discovered the formula

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:27 pm
by dazedbyday
Needs more shit like ∑ π ø ˆΩ ∫
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:29 pm
by whiskey_face
600 watts x 10 = 666%
that's what Im figuring
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:31 pm
by Kacey Y
Ancient Astronaught wrote:Okay so I think I have finally figured out the formula to determine whether or not your amp is doom acceptable.
*Disclaimer* This formula is designed for tube amps.
Legend:
X= Amp wattage
Y= Amp Volume
Z= Amp acceptability
Formula:
(X/10) x Y = Z
Samples:
100w on 8
(100/10) x 10 = 80%
30w on 4
(30/10) x 4 = 12%
50w on 6
(50/10) x 6 = 30%
200w on 10
(200/10) x 10 = 200%
It seems to work out, don't ya think?

By this standard, anything at or above around 3.333 on Mr. Grumpy should be up to standard.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:41 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
dazedbyday wrote:Needs more shit like ∑ π ø ˆΩ ∫
Hmmmm if I knew how to make those symbols I gladly would have swapped them for XYZ
whiskey_face wrote:600 watts x 10 = 666%
that's what Im figuring
This is not for multiple amps but a formula for figuring out whether or not a single amp is up to par. But considering an SVT above 3 according to this formula is beyond 100% acceptable, I think your fine.
Corey Y wrote:By this standard, anything at or above around 3.333 on Mr. Grumpy should be up to standard.
Correct, and I have a feeling you won't be disappointed when you put it to the test.
All I gotta do is crank to 5 and I'm good. Considering full on band practice has never needed above 2 or 3 I think that its fairly accurate.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 2:42 pm
by HeavyXIII
What about figuring for rigs with multiple heads? What if they not set at the same volume? Do we need to create a mean value for amp volume based on all the heads? Are we allowed to add the amp wattages together, or do we have to adjust for the amount of speakers they're driving as well?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:21 pm
by Kacey Y
HeavyXIII wrote:What about figuring for rigs with multiple heads? What if they not set at the same volume? Do we need to create a mean value for amp volume based on all the heads? Are we allowed to add the amp wattages together, or do we have to adjust for the amount of speakers they're driving as well?
Hold on, I need to get a slide rule and some graph paper.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 3:30 pm
by Ancient Astronaught
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 4:25 pm
by Barracuda
Get the scientists working on the tube technology.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 6:55 pm
by ShaolinLambKiller
the more the better the louder the better. that's how it works in a nutshell.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:48 pm
by conky
Ok dudes, So the other night I saw Sleep in Atlanta and I did enjoy their set (or what I saw, we left right when they kicked into Dragonaut). I enjoyed their set and even bought the Clarity single but when I listen t home I just can't get into it. What is their best stuff that I should start with? I've been at home sick all day and tried watching a bunch of their shows on youtube and I couldn't get 10 minutes into it before I had to find something else to listen to. Help me out so's I can keep my doom cred.
Also, Matt finally got a 2nd head (Earth) so we're gonna start dual rigging. Can't. Fucking. Wait.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 7:48 pm
by Iommic Pope
HeavyXIII wrote:What about figuring for rigs with multiple heads? What if they not set at the same volume? Do we need to create a mean value for amp volume based on all the heads? Are we allowed to add the amp wattages together, or do we have to adjust for the amount of speakers they're driving as well?
Time to run full statistical analyses.
Break out yo MANOVA!
What about hybrid rigs utilising bass and guitar gear, or SS and Tube (tube watts have a different exchange rate to SS watts. And Russian wattsare different again)?
I'd also like to point out that skully runs a micro setup and that guy is doom as fvck.
I feel like this is the wrong direction to take this theory in.
I think what we may actually need to be looking at is a way of quantifying the effect a riff has on an individual.
Wherein doom factor is calculated as a percentage of the compound effect tritones have on riffing, in conjunction with elements of harsh noise, low tunings and perceived misesry of listener.
So, maybe: %Doom = (TTxR)+(H+L)/Misery
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:11 pm
by t-rey
conky wrote:Ok dudes, So the other night I saw Sleep in Atlanta and I did enjoy their set (or what I saw, we left right when they kicked into Dragonaut). I enjoyed their set and even bought the Clarity single but when I listen t home I just can't get into it. What is their best stuff that I should start with? I've been at home sick all day and tried watching a bunch of their shows on youtube and I couldn't get 10 minutes into it before I had to find something else to listen to. Help me out so's I can keep my doom cred.
Also, Matt finally got a 2nd head (Earth) so we're gonna start dual rigging. Can't. Fucking. Wait.

I've got to be in the right mood to listen to Sleep. For a long time Dopespoker was my go-to for catching up on paperwork on Friday afternoons. I really wish they would've released Antarticus Thawed instead of the Clarity though.
Dual Rigs ftw

Iommic Pope wrote:HeavyXIII wrote:What about figuring for rigs with multiple heads? What if they not set at the same volume? Do we need to create a mean value for amp volume based on all the heads? Are we allowed to add the amp wattages together, or do we have to adjust for the amount of speakers they're driving as well?
Time to run full statistical analyses.
Break out yo MANOVA!
What about hybrid rigs utilising bass and guitar gear, or SS and Tube (tube watts have a different exchange rate to SS watts. And Russian wattsare different again)?
I'd also like to point out that skully runs a micro setup and that guy is doom as fvck.
I feel like this is the wrong direction to take this theory in.
I think what we may actually need to be looking at is a way of quantifying the effect a riff has on an individual.
Wherein doom factor is calculated as a percentage of the compound effect tritones have on riffing, in conjunction with elements of harsh noise, low tunings and perceived misesry of listener.
So, maybe: %Doom = (TTxR)+(H+L)/Misery
I'd have to qualify on this formula, since I'm hitting about a 7.5% on the other one
