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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 8:16 am
by CaptainBoxman
Doombros, I've been out of the loop for a while with uni and teaching and a bunch of other shit
Recommend me some newish releases? My rotation is getting a bit boring
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:28 am
by D.o.S.
New Elder:
https://beholdtheelder.bandcamp.com/[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLCGjPqtlGc[/youtube]
Haven't checked out the new Ufomammut yet but I'm sure it's amazing.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:36 pm
by HeavyXIII
Unholy and all knowing Hivemind of Room Doom! Is a stereo 412 a worthy endeavour of my cash flow?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 12:52 pm
by emptyparadigm
HeavyXIII wrote:Unholy and all knowing Hivemind of Room Doom! Is a stereo 412 a worthy endeavour of my cash flow?
IMO, no. But that's just me.
RE: new releases
Fister - IV -
https://crownandthroneltd.bandcamp.com/album/ivPrimitive Man - Home is Where the Hatred Is -
https://primitivemandoom.bandcamp.com/a ... -hatred-is
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:06 pm
by misterstomach
HeavyXIII wrote:Unholy and all knowing Hivemind of Room Doom! Is a stereo 412 a worthy endeavour of my cash flow?
No. It's a gimmick by the bigger cab makers that doesn't actually play out well in real life. In my experience, and I've tried it a bunch, it never sounds good. There's always some weird frequency conflicts and phase cancellation going on. What I've found to usually happen is that you can play with one head or the other switched on and have it dialed in to sound good and when you hit the ab/y to turn on the other one the low end vanishes and it just sounds all weird and shitty. In a shitty way, not a cool shitty way. Perhaps you could alleviate it somewhat with an internal isolation baffle, but I wouldn't trust that to really do it, not to mention your screwing up the dimensions that make it sound good as a 4x12. Totally not a good ideas in my opinion. I think there's a good reason that smaller builders and high end builders have not pursued catching up with Marshall and Mesa on this one.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:03 pm
by Kacey Y
HeavyXIII wrote:Unholy and all knowing Hivemind of Room Doom! Is a stereo 412 a worthy endeavour of my cash flow?
I agree with misterstomach, I've never found a stereo cab to be worth it. You get more out of dual rigs if you have some use for stereo effects, than with a split side cab. Some cabs are just stereo as part of their base price, like newer Marshall cabs. Nothing wrong with that if the price is right, they still work fine as mono cabs.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:12 pm
by HeavyXIII
Hmm. Thanks for the tips! I guess I'll just work on getting nicer speakers rather than an extra piece of shit to set up. I got a trade offer of some Sheffields for my G12T75s. Supposedly these are Peavey's 100W version of the V30, that used to come stock in the old XXX 412 cabinets. I know somebody in here liked the Sheffields a fair deal, but Peavey calls pretty much all their current speakers Sheffield it seems like

I really like my V30s in my one cab, anyone know if these are even remotely comparable?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:30 pm
by louderthangod
fever606 wrote:Anyone have success stringing up a baritone (28" scale) in E-to-E, Bass Vi style?
I have one of those Fender baritone Jaguar's with the 28 5/8" scale with the Fender VI strings. I forget the gauge but I think the low E is a 95 and it does E-e pretty well. The low E could be a hair larger, I like a lot of string tension but the rest of the strings sound like a piano. I was thinking of doing a unison A tuning instead since it naturally sounds more punchy.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:36 pm
by Iommic Pope
DoS beat me to the new Elder, but yes. Get it. It is amazing. Was just listening to Legend while I made breakfast.
I've got the Dorthia Cotttell solo incoming as well, and it is sweet. Bittersweet.
New fister and primitive man?
Gotta check those.
Also, astronomers: BLOOD MOON TONIGHT. Not sure how visible in the Northern Hemisphere but I can view from Bris alright, so AusDoomers, gather under the eclipse with your monoliths of dark watts for communion from about 8/9 eastern time tonight. I care not do your daylight savings, NSW. Who wants to save daylight in this country?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:13 pm
by Barracuda
The new Elder is fucking rad. I also checked out Mantar because I saw they are going to be on tour with Conan in North America. Holy shit boys. I dig it.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:31 pm
by ryan summit
HeavyXIII wrote:Hmm. Thanks for the tips! I guess I'll just work on getting nicer speakers rather than an extra piece of shit to set up. I got a trade offer of some Sheffields for my G12T75s. Supposedly these are Peavey's 100W version of the V30, that used to come stock in the old XXX 412 cabinets. I know somebody in here liked the Sheffields a fair deal, but Peavey calls pretty much all their current speakers Sheffield it seems like

I really like my V30s in my one cab, anyone know if these are even remotely comparable?
dude i just ebayed 2 xxx's
kinda cheap too
i didnt even think anyone here be interested
i never hookeded them up
but i love the 1230s and 90s
skips recommend and he was right
i had g12t75s in the emperor
swapped them for sheffields and was real happy
still i havent tried the triple xxx's
sat in my living room shrouded in bad juju
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:18 pm
by HeavyXIII
Ya, I'm really hating the t75s. They're really blocky sounding in the low mids and harsh in the highs (even though I cut the highs going to them). I'm tempted because of the V30 comparison, but I converted an old Peavey Transtube into a 212 cab when I was away in college, and those 1230s (I think?) sounded pretty decent. I listened to several V30 variant comparisons with headphones, and while the differences are pretty noticeable, I think if they're even 80% of what regular V30s are, they'll be close enough to be worth the trade.
Also, I know all the standard wiring tricks for 16 ohm speakers, but I'd be trying to weasel these into an 8 ohm configuration (which by all accounts seems nigh impossible). I dug around and found some really vague references to heatsink resistors to change the impedance, but I don't know how exactly that would work, given that I know:
16 ohm speaker (in parallel to) + 2 8 ohm speakers in series equals 8 ohms total, but the power dispersion ends up unbalanced, and I worry that adding random ass resistors could cause some type of similar issue. Halp?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:36 pm
by AxAxSxS
buy or trade for 8 ohm speakers.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:11 am
by blakestree
This was my first time listening to this. Great album!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:44 am
by odontophobia
blakestree wrote: This was my first time listening to this. Great album!
Yeah -- I really like the new Elder. Very cool record.