Count To Five

[multi_s]

Ya sure that is a good idea. Ive never used a hazari but i think i know what you mean. But also ya thats the kind of updates im looking to do, i have only found 1 very small bug in the current firmware so i dont mean small touchups. I'm not exactly sure how it will go but most likely i will start one or two very small kickstarters with different possible firmware directions, then people can pitch what they think its worth to them, but the $$$ goal will be something like a few dollars times the number of ct5's sold at that time. Then i will just release the binaries online and people can upgrade on their end. So just like in a real functioning democracy, the people with the most money have the most say in what happens.

also no mode 2 doesn't overdub. Basically it works like this:

1) turn on mode 2, nothing is happening.
2) hold down soft switch and play, this gets taken in until you release (or 4 seconds, with it wrapping on itself at 4 seconds)
3) thing is playing back now with style
4) a 'tap' will now clear/stop what's playing and your back at step 1. Or if you hold again, the old sample continues to play as you record, but when you release the new sample you just recorded starts playing, basically back at step 3 with a new sample.

It is setup this way to be (in my opinion) more practical live. However overdubbing on subsequent holds also makes sense, but that's not what is on the current program.

[nevada]

Well the pedal does not have any midi control at all so i guess depending on what you are trying to do, yes it may be difficult to sync it exactly. One of the looper modes chops up the signal and you can trim the length of these smaller slices pretty easily using a knob so syncing manually might not be that bad, but the other looper, you just hold down the button to sample and release to start playback. So syncing that might be trickier and more dependent on your foot skills then anything else.

What ive been doing is going the other way, where i have a midi capable drum machine (Dr Groove, thank you Joe Gress!) and it has a tap tempo on it. So i get a loop setup on the CT5 then i just sort of tap in the rhythm. Again its not perfect because over time it can drift and is dependent on my tapping ability, but at least you can retap on the fly to bring it back together.

Cool! Thanks for the details. I'm pretty sure I can do something to make it work. I can sync via CV instead of MIDI or use the knob method.

[goroth]

Scott mode 2 not doing overdubs is awesome for live use. Maybe a ducking feature would make it even better for me, but it's totally rad the way it works now.

[Stephen]

Scott mode 2 not doing overdubs is awesome for live use. Maybe a ducking feature would make it even better for me, but it's totally rad the way it works now.

I agree, no overdubs in mode 2 is a very good thing.
One of the best bits about mode 2 is that you can leave all the knobs in one position and get radically different sounds depending on how, when, and how long you hold the momentary switch down for. For a variety of pulsating/glitchy/frozen sounds I have the knobs set pretty much like goroth outlined earlier: quantised to octaves/fifths, dir set to unison or reverse unison, Len set to about 11 o clock, rand all the way up. With that setting if I record the sample after the initial attack I get a pulsing freeze type thing, but I can hit the record button BEFORE I play the chord and the silence at the beginning of the sample makes the resulting pad glitchier. On top of this, recording a shorter sample will give you glitchier results and recording longer samples will be smoother, presumably because the setting on the Len knob is relative to the length of the recorded sample.
It really is a very good pedal indeed.

[cedarskies]

So just like in a real functioning democracy, the people with the most money have the most say in what happens.

It is setup this way to be (in my opinion) more practical live.

agreed. i love that when you are recording the new part in mode 2 the previous loop still runs until you let go on the momentary switch.

[Joe Gress]

So I had a blast playing this all day yesterday! So much awesome/win!!!

Best mode I found so far was a short delay time and no feedback. This creates just one or two (depends on the dir setting I've found) notes in a very strict rhythm after my original note. Something like this intro on the drums FX:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN_-pJGRus8[/youtube]

Btw, in mode one, what is the difference between the red and blue leds? I figured out that it corresponds to where the Length knob is set, and its really nifty in nailing down the tempo.

[multi_s]

Btw, in mode one, what is the difference between the red and blue leds? I figured out that it corresponds to where the Length knob is set, and its really nifty in nailing down the tempo.

Since the 'len b' parameter is quantized (actually only ~9 different settings) the led changes color when you move the knob enough to be in a new setting. This gives you some sort of indication, otherwise its difficult to know. Each setting is twice/half as long as the previous/next.

[stoneapart]

Just found this pedal last night and wow!!!!!!!!!! amazing pedal, love it!!!! just sent an email to Scott and hopefully these bad boys are still around. what an amazing pedal. can't wait to hear back and hopefully the news is good

[goosekevin]

god damn im in love with this pedal
only got it this afternoon so im potentially just honeymooning but holy shit
mode one is what i hoped the gb24 would be
mode two is even better than i could have hoped for glitchy, freezey things
and more three is outstanding for soundscapes and big effects

kudos to you scott

[stoneapart]

Scott got ahold of me and it's on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone have any suggestions or found any cool settings to try out so i can really dig in and get my feet wet right away with this beast?? Seems like everyone here loves this pedal and i'm looking for the same. I'm sure i will immediately as well but a little help never hurts anyone. Thanks.....

[stoneapart]

there's a thread in general gear full of clips. some of them more noise than anything else but it'll give you an idea

Thanks man, i'll give it a look much appreciated!

[UnicornTrap]

I am late to this thread, but after seeing some of the demos I just played my order. I have a 4x flashback, but honestly I seem to suck at looping with it. The extra knobs and time changing stuff with the CT5 will make this *really* useful for me to get a cool weird loop going... pretty excited! where are you guys generally putting this pedal in your chain? up front or closer to the end? I can see pros and cons of both if you're playing over it on one amp

[multi_s]

I don't actually have much of a pedal board going at the moment but I just rock it like:

guitar -> ct5 (with exp. pedal) -> distortion -> eq -> amp.

For distortion i either like the hot cake or the metal master. From the photos most people are doing something a little more elaborate so maybe they can chime in.

[Eric!]

Everyone needs two of theses

[corbetta]

I got mine yesterday. Holy Jeebus is this thing fun. I'm enjoying the second mode a whole lot for glitchy/warbly droning stuff; the first mode is almost like a little misbehaving harmonizer from hell; and the third one is a fun little multi looper. Couple of questions/ideas:

1) does the quantize selection reset every time you power down the pedal? If so it's kind of a drag (though I think I will embrace freely gliding pitch once I get more comfortable with it.

2) it would be cool if the knobs could be set to interact with the expression pedal somehow. The main reason for that is that I'd like my loops to start at 1:1 speed to be modified later, and it's REALLY hard to nail unison speed with an expression pedal, at least for me. Or maybe have the knob take precedence over the expression pedal until the expression is moved...don't know if that's possible, just a thought.

In mode 2 I'm getting around this "problem" by starting the loop with the expression set to the RAND knob (don't mind if it's fully open or fully closed), and then changing it to DIR1 when I want to mess with the loop. So not a huge issue either way.

Fun stuff!