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Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:27 am
by Iommic Pope
Hah! True that.
Did Green do those Oranges that had the two inward facing speakers in the centre of the cab?
Is it something like that?
Edit: reflector cabs
This shit
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/vinyl-finds/library/Orange?sort=3&page=1
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:30 am
by D.o.S.
I have not the faintest clue.
The only proper green Matamp 4x15's I know about are the ones you know about.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:31 am
by Iommic Pope
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:58 am
by whiskey_face
lots of companies made 415s in the good ol days. skip 15s go 18s
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:01 am
by Iommic Pope
This is true...but I was alluding to the fact that Skip might be after THAT particular type.
So Whisk, you'd be the authority on folded cabs, how did they all start?
*gather round for a history lesson with Uncle Whiskers, kiddies!*
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:02 am
by AxAxSxS
Holy shit! ^^ Want.
they sound cool, will have to hear the live set as no vocs are audible in that. I trust Steve though. He's done an amazing job lately of getting good bands to play with. I'm sure it helps to have everyone wanting to be on a bill with you but the dude has some good taste.
i'd like to get some 15's back into my setup, but what I have now is working really well together and space is a definite issue. Getting to the point where we need a larger van.

The 1x18 fh/4x12 is still in the works. Not sure whats going on as last time I saw it, it was nearly complete. Been a Looooooooong time now.

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:03 am
by AxAxSxS
Jesus, like 8 posts while I was responding. Interested in the lore of the FH though. REGALE US! DO IT NAOW!
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:07 am
by AxAxSxS
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:08 am
by Iommic Pope
AxAxSxS wrote:Holy shit! ^^ Want.
The 1x18 fh/4x12 is still in the works. Not sure whats going on as last time I saw it, it was nearly complete. Been a Looooooooong time now.

Yeah, I might build a little 1x15 like that when I get some time....or just a mock up to run a beta bass into when I eventually get one.
Yeah dude, that is gonna be rad when its done.
AxAxSxS wrote: REGALE US! DO IT NAOW!
THIS
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:15 am
by whiskey_face
i actually dont know excactly how they figured them out. but iirc it was mid 60s when they fingered them out based on a scientific equation that revolves around the way a speaker behaves.
not all drivers work well in horns and some are made for horns.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:18 am
by whiskey_face
i also might have a lead on a holy grail basscab too. . .
will make my sensrround horn look tiny and feel light. . . .

Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:20 am
by Iommic Pope
Dude....what the fuck?
True.
So maybe acoustic made some of the first?
Vox?
Selmer?
With the idea of a reflector cab then, would there be a special design/type of speaker designed for that application?
I'm assuming something is going on with the phase of the two that face each other as well?
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:23 am
by AxAxSxS
All I can add as a Folded horn aficionado is that when you get your hands on a good one, it adds a completely unattainable depth to the sound vs. without one. I cherish the GK4412H I lucked into. The ACC 18 i have is also badass, but not as good for guitar. Stock it was very inefficient and needed a ton of power to keep up. Rocked on bass though. I'm hoping it will translate to the custom cab that's in the works. If you like depth, find a good FH and add it to your rig. Just massive sounding. I want clips of that randall someone got. I forget who. Looked very good though.
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:25 am
by whiskey_face
theyre prolly isobarically loaded. makes it so you can halve the cab size.
thats an archaic design now but it was super popular back then
Re: The Doom Room: ILF Edition
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:32 am
by Iommic Pope
Yeah, after reading this:
http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14609I'd have to say you're probably right.
Interesting that messing with phase of each speaker can yield "different" cab sizes though.
So....Skip is not getting one of these then?