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Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:44 pm
by Wes Mantooth
All of USPS seems to just be fucking off with this weather we are having, I've got a pedal coming that's just been stuck in Wisconsin for three days.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:51 pm
by UglyCasanova
Random panic attacks in rapid succession since last night.

What really sucks is that I have an aversion to eating too much food in general (6 feet tall, 135lbs), and when I have periods with lots of anxieties I pretty much don't eat at all. If I eat, I get an attack. If I don't eat my body gets weak and I'm more prone to attacks. Evil circle is evil.

I know we have a lot of people who suffer from panic attacks here, so let me ask you: When they're at their worst, do you ever have actual overlapping thoughts? It's the only time my brain works like that and it's weeeeeird as fuck. Like an epileptic montage of shitty thoughts and randomness. They don't last more than maybe 5-15 seconds and once the attack stops I'm incredibly tired/sleepy.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:08 pm
by Sparrow
sorry to hear that.

i sort of know what you mean about overlapping thoughts.
when i had Panic.. i would describe it more as my thoughts "Skipped a Beat" ?
or .. almost. You know when you tell yourself NOT to think something .. and it makes you think about it even more?

it Weird. and it Sucks.

if you can exercise or stretch or meditate Every Day .. it will help.
i like to ride a bike. do light weights and stretch. and just Meditate sometimes.

i too lose my appetite when i feel like that.

just try to eat well. like .. Real food! when you can. i'm sure Sugar is Bad.

Hope you're feeling better Bud!

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:28 pm
by gunslinger_burrito
UglyCasanova wrote:Random panic attacks in rapid succession since last night.

What really sucks is that I have an aversion to eating too much food in general (6 feet tall, 135lbs), and when I have periods with lots of anxieties I pretty much don't eat at all. If I eat, I get an attack. If I don't eat my body gets weak and I'm more prone to attacks. Evil circle is evil.

I know we have a lot of people who suffer from panic attacks here, so let me ask you: When they're at their worst, do you ever have actual overlapping thoughts? It's the only time my brain works like that and it's weeeeeird as fuck. Like an epileptic montage of shitty thoughts and randomness. They don't last more than maybe 5-15 seconds and once the attack stops I'm incredibly tired/sleepy.


I've had a couple near-anxiety attacks lately too. I thought for once I was going to have to leave work because it was getting bad enough. I've never had to do that before, and I'm kind of afraid that if I do, it will give more power to the anxiety..... :idk:

My thoughts, when I'm getting close to a anxiety attack, always manage to find their way to the worst possible scenarios, even if I'm still able at the same time to see why those scenarios are 99.9% unlikely to occur. It's like the emotional part of my brain is taking off on a rocket to hell, and the rational ground control can't get a hold of the pilot.

Sparrow wrote: You know when you tell yourself NOT to think something .. and it makes you think about it even more?

it Weird. and it Sucks.

if you can exercise or stretch or meditate Every Day .. it will help.
i like to ride a bike. do light weights and stretch. and just Meditate sometimes.
!


Yeah, my anxiety is definitely a case of trying not to think of the negative thoughts, and because I'm trying not to, it makes them even stronger. I want to start meditating again. I fucking need it. I exercise a lot, but haven't been running in a while. I've always found that running helped because I could just focus on the music in my earbuds, and putting one foot in front of the other. If my mind wandered, it was almost like it was a mental dumping of all the chaotic thoughts.

I'm trying to figure out which part of my anxiety is the symptom and which is the cause.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:51 pm
by UglyCasanova
gunslinger_burrito wrote:I've had a couple near-anxiety attacks lately too. I thought for once I was going to have to leave work because it was getting bad enough. I've never had to do that before, and I'm kind of afraid that if I do, it will give more power to the anxiety..... :idk:

My thoughts, when I'm getting close to a anxiety attack, always manage to find their way to the worst possible scenarios, even if I'm still able at the same time to see why those scenarios are 99.9% unlikely to occur. It's like the emotional part of my brain is taking off on a rocket to hell, and the rational ground control can't get a hold of the pilot.


Giving in to it is definitely the worst thing I can do, but that's where the whole 'panic' part comes into play. Sometimes I'm unable to step back view it for what it is, and instead start thinking that something is terribly wrong. In hindsight it's always easy to just think "that darn chemical imbalance does some silly things to the ol' noggin", rather than "oh shit, I'm about to have a fucking heart attack and everyone I know will die and I'm broke and what am I doing with my life and I'm growing old and time never stops and who am I really and how can my mind make my body feel so fucking shitty and what's the meaning of even living like this".

Sparrow wrote:sorry to hear that.

i sort of know what you mean about overlapping thoughts.
when i had Panic.. i would describe it more as my thoughts "Skipped a Beat" ?
or .. almost. You know when you tell yourself NOT to think something .. and it makes you think about it even more?

it Weird. and it Sucks.

if you can exercise or stretch or meditate Every Day .. it will help.
i like to ride a bike. do light weights and stretch. and just Meditate sometimes.

i too lose my appetite when i feel like that.

just try to eat well. like .. Real food! when you can. i'm sure Sugar is Bad.

Hope you're feeling better Bud!


Thanks, man. I know it comes and passes, and that it eventually get's better. Just makes me so angry and depressed whenever it kicks back in. I have OCD (not the "lol, I hate that that tile doesn't follow the pattern" kind), so looping thoughts are without a doubt the thing that get's a lot worse when I have panic attacks. About three years ago I meditated every single day, but as the attacks became less and less frequent I stopped doing it. Maybe it's time to practice doing it again. If I remember correctly it took me 3-4 weeks to really get into it.

And sugary things makes it worse for sure. Since I can't stand feeling full (especially now) I try to eating foods that have a lot of energy, i.e. nuts, dried berries, sprouted whole grain, beans, spinach, avocado etc.

Thank you for looking out for me, duders. Sometimes it just helps to get things off of my chest, even if it's "just" on an online forum. :group:

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:11 pm
by ChetMagongalo
I have a lot of anxiety too, and I have just now started to be more persistent in combating it because eats away at my well being, happiness, and relationships. I have also had panic attacks, twitching, vomiting, eating/hunger and stomach problems that are all likely connected to my anxiety.

Excercise, having a better diet, yoga, laughing, meditation, reading, hanging out with people, riding my bike, socializing face to face have been helpful. Also eliminating habits that encourage self destructive behavior aka induce more anxiety is good too. Staying up late, having a poor diet, drinking a lot of alcohol, addictions of all kinds. For me this is mostly my addiction to the internet, which likely many of us also suffer from being ILF users; shit even focusing on gear and buying a lot of gear can be addicting and a bad way to deal with anxiety. deleting my facebook and instagram helped me a lot. but it can be more than just the internet, it depends on your personal life and what you spend your time doing.

idk how most people feel about teal swan, but most of the videos I've watched are good, her video on anxiety matches up very well with my experience with anxiety. almost every point she talks about has been relevant to my life. I know it's a long video, but anxiety is not simple and the length addresses that.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_jRvkP7ho[/youtube]

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:49 pm
by UglyCasanova
ChetMagongalo wrote:Excercise, having a better diet, yoga, laughing, meditation, reading, hanging out with people, riding my bike, socializing face to face have been helpful. Also eliminating habits that encourage self destructive behavior aka induce more anxiety is good too. Staying up late, having a poor diet, drinking a lot of alcohol, addictions of all kinds. For me this is mostly my addiction to the internet, which likely many of us also suffer from being ILF users; shit even focusing on gear and buying a lot of gear can be addicting and a bad way to deal with anxiety. deleting my facebook and instagram helped me a lot. but it can be more than just the internet, it depends on your personal life and what you spend your time doing.


I think you touched upon quite a few of the things that I can better. I'm very much addicted to the internet (look at post count vs join date...) and buying gear. Since I started reading for my exams about six weeks ago I haven't been very social, haven't exercised, read (for anything other than my exams), or went to bed before 2am. I don't have any plans for the next week before I start up at uni again But I don't drink alcohol (well, I had a beer a few months ago with Eivind August at a concert) and for the last few weeks I stopped eating meat. The meat thing might have thrown my body a bit off balance, but I rather think it's one of the other point you've made. Those are things I haven't really thought about, so thank you. When I've been anti-social for longer periods of time, actually getting out in the world again feels sort of scary.

I will check the video in the morning, for sure. But it's 2 am now, so I should probably go to bed. :facepalm: :lol:

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:45 pm
by Sparrow
Thanks, man. I know it comes and passes, and that it eventually get's better. Just makes me so angry and depressed whenever it kicks back in. I have OCD (not the "lol, I hate that that tile doesn't follow the pattern" kind), so looping thoughts are without a doubt the thing that get's a lot worse when I have panic attacks. About three years ago I meditated every single day, but as the attacks became less and less frequent I stopped doing it. Maybe it's time to practice doing it again. If I remember correctly it took me 3-4 weeks to really get into it.

And sugary things makes it worse for sure. Since I can't stand feeling full (especially now) I try to eating foods that have a lot of energy, i.e. nuts, dried berries, sprouted whole grain, beans, spinach, avocado etc.

Thank you for looking out for me, duders. Sometimes it just helps to get things off of my chest, even if it's "just" on an online forum. :group:[/quote]

:group:

I totally agree. and this is another reason why i Love this Forum.
most everyone seems Honest and Open.
and .. it does help just to vent, and see how common we are.

also. Meditation doesn't have to be anything more - than just closing your eyes for a moment. and take a deep Breath.
may seem cheesy. but this website can be relaxing.
just to take a moment.

http://www.calm.com/

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:45 am
by alexa.
UglyCasanova wrote:I stopped eating meat. The meat thing might have thrown my body a bit off balance, but I rather think it's one of the other point you've made. Those are things I haven't really thought about, so thank you. When I've been anti-social for longer periods of time, actually getting out in the world again feels sort of scary.


The meat thing for sure gave your body a scare. Any violent ending of a habit is sure to re-introduce resistance to the system in some way. You need to soothe the situation. Meat has some chemicals/hormones that change the bodies state, and now your body thinks you're chemically imbalanced, which is what anxiety is, basically. It's how the body notifies you "HEY DUDE, YOU'RE ZZ, TAKE CARE OF ME"

So try eating meat once a week for a longer period to make it a smoother transition. Also, all the great advice of meditation and exercise are sure to help out, but the important thing to remember is that your body has its own tempo, just respect it and progress one step at a time.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:09 am
by Eivind August
I don't really have anything to add to the advices regarding anxiety and such, but just wanted to drop in and say :group: :group: :group:

I've no idea how it feels to be going through that sort of stuff, but I do know it takes a strong person to live with it and fight it like you guys do.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:38 am
by Disarm D'arcy
So YOU are the immunized one? I hate you.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:35 pm
by kbit
I got to play the drums today at practice and they really really really really really want to buy a barebones kit and start to develop my skills. But in a few months I'm planning on leaving the city for an indeterminate amount of time and acquire drums and a space to play them just doesn't make sense. :( Mer. Longterm goals I guess.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:37 pm
by PetZounds
alexa. wrote:
UglyCasanova wrote:I stopped eating meat. The meat thing might have thrown my body a bit off balance, but I rather think it's one of the other point you've made. Those are things I haven't really thought about, so thank you. When I've been anti-social for longer periods of time, actually getting out in the world again feels sort of scary.


The meat thing for sure gave your body a scare. Any violent ending of a habit is sure to re-introduce resistance to the system in some way. You need to soothe the situation. Meat has some chemicals/hormones that change the bodies state, and now your body thinks you're chemically imbalanced, which is what anxiety is, basically. It's how the body notifies you "HEY DUDE, YOU'RE ZZ, TAKE CARE OF ME"

So try eating meat once a week for a longer period to make it a smoother transition. Also, all the great advice of meditation and exercise are sure to help out, but the important thing to remember is that your body has its own tempo, just respect it and progress one step at a time.


Dude yo I stopped eating meat a few weeks ago also and my body is all out of whack.
I have been eating non-stop since then, because I just feel hungry all the time.
I made a giant tub of hummus and consumed it in 3 days, by myself.
Trying to find a balance in your diet when you've violently upset it is really difficult.
It's definitely had me feeling whacky lately.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:41 pm
by neonblack
Alright bro's. Gonna lay some veggie wisdom on you.

Vital wheat gluten is your best friend. With it, you can make all kinds of awesome veggie meats. My favorite vegan recipe site is Post Punk Kitchen. Everything I've made from there is Fucking delicious, and I've managed to maintain a meat-free lifestyle for 5 years, and almost totally vegan for the last 2.

Also, dont be afraid of tofu. You just gotta know how to cook it.

Double post incoming, I'm gonna link some good recipes.

Re: The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:45 pm
by Chankgeez
Tempeh rules. (This's the wrong thread for such an awesome exclamation.)