The spite, hate, rage, apathy and mild irritation thread...

[gunslinger_burrito]

lol, had an interesting comment on a cover I recently put up.

That was the worst cover I have ever heard. I'm sorry and i'm not trying to be negative but that was garbage. I laughed so hard during it because of how bad it was. Again I'm not trying to be mean but it was one of the worst things I have ever heard. Even the instruments sounded bad. I'm sorry but I don't think singing is your thing bro.

I mostly laughed it off and asked him specifically how I should improve as I do with most negative comments. Admittedly its really hard not to be deeply upset by what this guy said, especially with the amount of time and effort I put into my stuff. On top of that I don't usually get a lot of feedback since I'm basically an unknown. But I've learned to roll with the punches and try to be better from my mistakes.

But it still does suck.

What friendship said, although I wouldn't feel sorry for him. Trolls like to make themselves feel important by doing this shit. Some of my favorite bands always say that they try not to pay attention to reviews or youtube comments. I agree with them. I think (especially for people starting out) that by paying too much attention to internet comments and such, you run the risk of starting to compromise your art, even if you're not conscious of it. Dunno how much that applies to covering other people's songs, but its my two cents.

[tabbycat]

lol, had an interesting comment on a cover I recently put up.

That was the worst cover I have ever heard. I'm sorry and i'm not trying to be negative but that was garbage. I laughed so hard during it because of how bad it was. Again I'm not trying to be mean but it was one of the worst things I have ever heard. Even the instruments sounded bad. I'm sorry but I don't think singing is your thing bro.

I mostly laughed it off and asked him specifically how I should improve as I do with most negative comments. Admittedly its really hard not to be deeply upset by what this guy said, especially with the amount of time and effort I put into my stuff. On top of that I don't usually get a lot of feedback since I'm basically an unknown. But I've learned to roll with the punches and try to be better from my mistakes.

But it still does suck.

if you read through it dispassionately (easy for me, harder for you maybe) it sounds as if it came from someone who was getting off on the hope that it would hurt your feelings ("I laughed so hard during it because of how bad it was...I'm not trying to be mean"). if they were trying not to be mean they would keep their laughing to themselves. which makes them ‘borderline sociopath’ to begin with.

they are also clearly confused ("i'm trying not to be negative but that was garbage"). again, not trying very hard or don't understand the meaning of 'negative'.

as for "I don't think singing is your thing", this only means anything if you respect this person's judgement. if it's your mother or partner, that will hurt. but if it's just some trolling douche, what do you care? really.

with criticism, as with quite a lot of life really, you have to hope for the best and prepare for the worst. but this isn’t criticism, this is an insult where criticism ought to be. it’s someone getting off on being cruel to you. don’t let yourself be used like that.

genuine criticism would give you something to work with, to consider or reject; you are out of tune (are you?), drums sound too loud (are they?), you are singing flat (are you?).
or best of all, it would credit your positives and suggest something to help you address perceived negatives; that solo sounds a bit ‘busy’, maybe less would be more here, listen to this solo by whoever, etc.

ultimately, if the music you make makes you happy, and makes you feel you have really achieved something you set out to achieve, it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks.
and vice versa (which can make life frustrating sometimes). such is the artists lot.
but without your art you are just another consumer in the supermarket and another worker on the production line. better with than without i say.

But it still does suck.

only if you let it. all the power is with you. unless you give it away. i suggest you don't on this occasion.

get back to your music, bitchpudding.

[goosekevin]

im fucking sick of being so fucking sad but i dont know how to fix it
i was hospitalized, tried every drug in the book, countless professionals
they wont give me ect so i guess its just supposed to get better by itself?
but i dont know, nothing feels good

[Twangasaurus]

Just a thought but have you tried to get into one of those ketamine trials? Sounds like you would be a good candidate.

[BitchPudding]

Thanks peeps. I shouldn't let it bug me. On the bright side, he got flamed pretty hard by fans after he didn't respond to me requesting constructive criticism. So yea, probably a troll.

[Achtane]

Yeah, fuck that guy. Dude's an asshole. Fuck that asshole.
NOT TRYING TO BE NEGATIVE, BUT...EXTREMELY NEGATIVE REMARK WHICH OFFERS ZERO CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
I'M NOT RACIST, BUT...

[dubkitty]

im fucking sick of being so fucking sad but i dont know how to fix it

100x this. i can't seem to get over the stuff that happened in 2010-12 (when i lost the job i'd had for a decade, lost my partner of 13 years, and finally lost the house), and i don't know how. i've never been this messed up before, or on so many different medications. i desperately need friends and help, but i'm stuck in Charlottesville where even the ILFers don't have time for me. if it wasn't for my cat i'd be completely lost. it's a terrible thing when the only thing that's going well in life is your job, but that's where i am. and i don't even like the fucking job. sometimes i think i should have shot myself in Pocatello like i was planning to do if the job didn't come through. i just want to go home, but home isn't there any more. i would give almost anything to go back to california...to paraphrase Ritchey Manic, i hate the weather here worse than Hitler. i'm barely even playing any more. drugs, therapy, nothing seems to be able to break the cycle.

[Wes Mantooth]

This job is killing all the momentum I have for getting over my depression and anxiety issues. I haven't needed medication (besides weed) in four months and haven't felt suicidal as much. But fuck all I care about is getting home, doing drugs and escaping. I know it'll eventually be a problem but I don't care.

[Iommic Pope]

I have not had a coffee yet.
I am on the bus going to uni.
Brt.

[spacelordmother]

I have not had a coffee yet.
I am on the bus going to uni.
Brt.

Omg fuck leaving the house without coffee first.

[Iommic Pope]

I know.
I just got one. It's shit.
I got desperate cause it's cool out and I just went to first cafe I saw.
Most racist shit I'll ever say: Asian students could not make coffee to save their lives.

[skullservant]

'OBO' does not mean to super lowball me and then question me when I say no. Why did I even list stuff on TGP

[Iommic Pope]

Because it needs to sell.
Ugh, I'm even contemplating going back to the bay, after swearing it off.
Might try gumtree first.

[gunslinger_burrito]

Have any of you guys with the anxiety and shit tried meditation? I'm being 100% serious, too. I haven't read a ton on the effects of pharmaceutical medications, but it seems pretty straightforward (to me) that unless your brain chemistry is reeeeeal fucked up, that pumping it full of foreign chemicals would make it worse. I mean, if you're having anxiety attacks (which I did for a short while last fall) mood swings, and so on, why take drugs that add more shit to the pot, so to speak?
Edit: I once read an analogy that went like this: Taking pharmaceuticals for your brain, when you're having (insert problem here) is akin to dumping oil all over your engine in your car when it needs an oil change. It might help the problem area some, but it affects everything else in the process.

Anxiety, to an extent, is the result of your body releasing fight or flight hormones when it doesn't need to, and dwelling suuuuuuper hard on negative thoughts. When the flight or fight chems get going, it makes it easier to think about the bad shit, which fire the bad chems all over again.

I work in the ironically named natural foods industry and people have recommended to me time and again to take something that will support your adrenals, which are the things releasing those F/F chemicals.

I recommend meditation, specifically on mindfulness, so that when your moods start to do things you don't like, you can
a: be mindful of how your body feels, because that's one of the causes
and b: stop ruminating, because that will drive the bad hormones harder

Hope I don't sound too much like a hippy. This stuff helped me.

for youz gaiz

[Iommic Pope]

I considered meds a couple of months ago....opted for counseling instead.
Best idea I ever had.
Most anxiety stuff is cognitive. Unpack that, come up with some strategies to deal with it. Meds if that doesnt work or you have a diagnosed chemical imbalance.
Because of my psych background I'm very wary of meds. And meds without effective behavioural intervention are pointless.