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Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:00 pm
by skullservant
Okay, seriously considering this guitar- it's been revised that it's a 28" scale instead of 30", do you think it'd be alright??
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:20 pm
by the_carl
I'm still convinced that the bridge is not far back enough, and that it might be difficult to re-position in because of the trem. I mean, the dude says it a Classic Player jag body, and I don't think (but I could be wrong) that they made a baritone Classic Player, so I think he just shoved a 28" scale neck on a 24" scale guitar, which shouldn't really work. If you do a little mock-up in paint, you can see that the distance from 12th fret to bridge is much shorter than 12th fret to nut, which should give you problems with intonation. On the other hand, the seller says it's fine, so

Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:24 pm
by Chankgeez
the_carl wrote:I'm still convinced that the bridge is not far back enough, and that it might be difficult to re-position in because of the trem. I mean, the dude says it a Classic Player jag body, and I don't think (but I could be wrong) that they made a baritone Classic Player, so I think he just shoved a 28" scale neck on a 24" scale guitar, which shouldn't really work. If you do a little mock-up in paint, you can see that the distance from 12th fret to bridge is much shorter than 12th fret to nut, which should give you problems with intonation. On the other hand, the seller says it's fine, so
If you've any doubt, don't bid.
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:29 pm
by skullservant
I dont think they made a classic player baritone either, but I did find this:
Sorry for the huge picture:
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:35 pm
by the_carl
They also have those baritone teles now, which look kinda cool except for the whole HSS thing. I would go the Mudfuzz VI route and make my own but I suck at anything involving wood, so I'll probably just wait until Rondo stocks some cheap baritones again.
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:40 pm
by skullservant
I could always pull the neck off that Jag and made a cheap baritone, and then put a regular Jag neck on it.... hmmmm
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:45 pm
by skullservant
In doing some research, I found a thread where a dude put a Warmoth 28.5" neck on a Jazzmaster and said it intonated correctly. He said a 30" scale would yield 3/4" bridge drop:
http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... hp?t=26110
The black one is a Jag with a Warmoth bari neck strapped to it. The Jag is a shorter scale than a Jazzy - jazzys are the same as a strat - the Warmoth neck is scaled to bolt straight to a strat, so that means you can bolt it straight to a Jazzy, no mods. I had to move the Jag bridge south, though - 3/4" to get the scale correct. That wasn't hard either. If you wanted the USACG scale neck on a jazzy body, you will have to move the Jazzy bridge south by maybe 3/4" to make it work, which will probably mess with your pickguard...
So - the Warmoth neck is probably the least hassle...I have my red Bass VI build setup for baritone just like the black Jag bari Conversion, and the 1.5" scale difference between the two means very little to the tone and playability - the Bass VI sounds perhaps slightly chunkier than the jag Conversion...the only thing with the Warmoth neck is that a) the fretboard is an overhanger(not very vintage-looking) and the headstock is a small strat-style pre-CBS shape, which looks a little odd with the Jag/Jazzy bodyshape...but not too bad! Both these instruments I tune baritone BEADF#B (often with dropped A) with D'Addario XL157's and they both sound huge with SD Antiquities(II's in the Bass VI, I's in the Jag)...
Maths:
A 30" scale neck means you will have 15" from nut to 12th fret. Therefore you will need 15" from 12th fret to bridge to get intonation correct.
A 28.5" scale neck means you have 14.25" from nut to 12th fret - therefore you need 14.25" from 12th fret to bridge to get intonation correct
So I hope this helps!"
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:20 pm
by skullservant
They took the Jag down. Wonder what was wrong?
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:03 pm
by FancyMike
Not sure why it got taken down, but I saw the first listing of that guitar last weekend. Almost bid on it because I want a baritone real bad but never got around to it. Looking at the close I probably wouldn't have taken it over his reserve though.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/280859271047?ss ... 500wt_1182
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:18 pm
by skullservant
I think the second auction didn't have a reserve, but it was around that price when it went down
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:26 am
by wsas3
Are those tribute or American?
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:31 pm
by helgirg
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:06 pm
by futuresailors

At those shipping prices.
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:46 pm
by helgirg
futuresailors wrote:

At those shipping prices.
def not worth it outside the US.
Re: The headsup sweet shit on ebay thread....
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:35 am
by TheOndrakGuy
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-1968- ... 4ab643fc0f
£550 and no bids. Someone on here needs this, I know it.