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Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:31 pm
by Blackened Soul
dubkitty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:20 am
bands have been working with DJs for DECADES. ever heard of (eurgh) Slipknot? the Beta Band? Gorillaz? DJ Logic toured with Dead guy Bob Weir’s band! you aren’t looking in the right places at all.
This at me or behndy?
I know all this.. I was more rambling about dealing to jamming with friends that dj and doing something… one day… it’s more a life/work/other project/travel time.. so it’s a someday.. thing.. not necessarily do I know this works in established bands…
Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 6:25 am
by Phosphene Audio
Back in the 80s, someone with a column in the old Musician magazine ran some contest asking folks to submit an edited 2 track tape, cutting two songs together and it was very specific about how it was supposed to be done. I know one of the songs was supposed to be Talk To Ya Later by the Tubes. I think the other was Goodbye To You by Scandal. People who submitted a well edited tape would get a letter of recommendation attesting to their editing skills, or something.
Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:39 am
by jrmy
This is a pretty fascinating idea on a philosophical / aesthetic level - on one side, you have the "traditionalist" view (quotes because there might be an actual discourse around this with accepted labels and whatnot) that "the song as presented is what's intended," and then the other would probably be "post-modernist," which would be all Burroughs/Gysin cut-up technique do what thou wilt is the whole of the law. But between those positions there's probably a fascinating spectrum.
I mean, artists regularly have other artists remix their songs - why shouldn't the audience? And that's to say nothing of DJs or sampling. I would say that I probably lean closer to the "do what thou wilt" side of things, PARTICULARLY in regards to personal listening. You do you, boo.
That said, I don't usually do it myself, though there was one track by the Louisville post-hardcore-hip-hop collective King G and the J Crew that I edited down to one acapella section to drop in as an interlude on mix CDs - I can't remember the whole thing, but it went something like "cut back to the raw essentials, bean caffeine and a bowl of lentils, loose leaf paper and a number two pencil..."
Ah, fuck it - it was the 90's.
Also: hell yes to Bandcamp and paying people for their work!
Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:32 pm
by behndy
Blackened Soul wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:31 pm
dubkitty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 01, 2025 5:20 am
bands have been working with DJs for DECADES. ever heard of (eurgh) Slipknot? the Beta Band? Gorillaz? DJ Logic toured with Dead guy Bob Weir’s band! you aren’t looking in the right places at all.
This at me or behndy?
I know all this.. I was more rambling about dealing to jamming with friends that dj and doing something… one day… it’s more a life/work/other project/travel time.. so it’s a someday.. thing.. not necessarily do I know this works in established bands…
jia. if it's at me, heyyyyyyyy Dubbers! for me, it's not really not looking in the right places, it's a complete lack of interest in trying to find good live stuff? most music that does that well i don't really dig on, and as much as i love going to live shows, i'm fine with the planned, worked on, time intensive home recording/studio output.
Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2025 10:36 pm
by behndy
jrmy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 02, 2025 8:39 am
This is a pretty fascinating idea on a philosophical / aesthetic level - on one side, you have the "traditionalist" view (quotes because there might be an actual discourse around this with accepted labels and whatnot) that "the song as presented is what's intended," and then the other would probably be "post-modernist," which would be all Burroughs/Gysin cut-up technique do what thou wilt is the whole of the law. But between those positions there's probably a fascinating spectrum.
I mean, artists regularly have other artists remix their songs - why shouldn't the audience? And that's to say nothing of DJs or sampling. I would say that I probably lean closer to the "do what thou wilt" side of things, PARTICULARLY in regards to personal listening. You do you, boo.
That said, I don't usually do it myself, though there was one track by the Louisville post-hardcore-hip-hop collective King G and the J Crew that I edited down to one acapella section to drop in as an interlude on mix CDs - I can't remember the whole thing, but it went something like "cut back to the raw essentials, bean caffeine and a bowl of lentils, loose leaf paper and a number two pencil..."
Ah, fuck it - it was the 90's.
Also: hell yes to Bandcamp and paying people for their work!
f'shiggs. i know it's really an.... unimportant in the grand scheme of things? question? since i have zero intension of ever using bits for new music or remixes or interpolations or anything, just for my personal use.
i think if it was me, i would appreciate that someone enjoyed at least part of something i made to take the time to pare it down to what they want?
mannnnnnn people do the lamest intros and outros though. i like drones and noise and messiness but... yeah. dunno.
Re: anybody else edit songs?
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2025 12:58 am
by Blackened Soul
Or.. it’s only good part of the song