The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[D.o.S.]

Then you basically kill yourself.

[D.o.S.]

But not really. We like you. I like you.

[pelliott]

^^^^ What he said. About the liking. Not the killing.

you're going to have to come around to sabbath one day though. all the bands you like are into them.

So if I like a bunch of bands that are into Sabbath, and I say to myself "Y'know, Self, a bunch of your favorite bands are into Sabbath, so maybe you should check them out," and I give them a shot, and I'm not into Sabbath...then what? Because I did that, and I'm getting the distinct impression that this is not considered to be an acceptable outcome around here.

You seem to be taking this much more seriously than the rest of us are.

[celticelk]

you're going to have to come around to sabbath one day though. all the bands you like are into them.

So if I like a bunch of bands that are into Sabbath, and I say to myself "Y'know, Self, a bunch of your favorite bands are into Sabbath, so maybe you should check them out," and I give them a shot, and I'm not into Sabbath...then what? Because I did that, and I'm getting the distinct impression that this is not considered to be an acceptable outcome around here.

You seem to be taking this much more seriously than the rest of us are.

Think it through from my perspective. Nobody else I know is into this music. At all. I come here because while I might not have too much overlap in interest within the genre with other posters, this is the one place where I can feel fairly confident that nobody's gonna give me the stinkeye because I like music that moves more slowly than a sloth on tranquilizers. And when someone says in that supposedly-understanding place that they don't like a particular band (put aside for the moment that Sabbath is historically significant for the development of the genre - I can recognize that without liking their music), the *kindest* responses are a patronizing "don't worry, you'll grow into it" (as if my ears at 40 are somehow not yet mature), and range from there down to basically "there's something wrong with you." How would you feel, if you were me?

[conky]

So it's not the best quality but if any of you were interested in the destroyer into the pharaoh here it izzz. It sounds a bit muffled when I first kick the pharaoh on in the first bit but it sounds really massive over here.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvTrnVcox5A&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Edit: Not sure what I did wrong with the link. Meh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvTrnVc ... e=youtu.be

Sounds killer. Nice and heavy.

...yeah, I'm that guy that "likes doom" but doesn't smoke weed and is "meh" about your favorite bands. There's always one....

I think I'm a minority. I'm straight edge (though I will never say I'm straight edge, I don't want to be associated with those militant hardcore dicks) but I love stoner and doom, mostly doom.

Whats the Best amp i can get around 1200 bucks?

Its not the best amp for the money, but the best amp that will do what you want for that budget. It sucks to get an amp and not like it, but its gonna happen. That can be a valuable experience though. You'll learn alot about different gear by playing firsthand. I'd start by finding out what amp is being used to get the tones on the album(s) that resemble the tone you're looking to get. Personally, if I had 1,200 bucks I'd look for another Hotrod 100 used. That amp is pretty versatile. It'll bring the doom (although there are that do it way better but it'll still hang) and more.

More like the Mood Room today am I right ladies?

It's like being a virgin and going straight to anal with a Moroccan man versus having sex normally with a British or American man for two years and gradually building your way up to 9" up da butt. Best analogy I could think of.

anal analogys work in every situation. it might be hard, but with a bit of work it'll fit. like anal.

Zing!

you're going to have to come around to sabbath one day though. all the bands you like are into them.

So if I like a bunch of bands that are into Sabbath, and I say to myself "Y'know, Self, a bunch of your favorite bands are into Sabbath, so maybe you should check them out," and I give them a shot, and I'm not into Sabbath...then what? Because I did that, and I'm getting the distinct impression that this is not considered to be an acceptable outcome around here.

I am this way about Red Fang. I tried and tried, but I cannot get into them. Their videos rule though.

[Krosis]

The great thing about music gear is that you can turn around and sell it if you don't like it.

The same can't be said for other hobbies, or the value of the product goes down so much after being used that you can't get much, if anything for it.

It's obviously different if you buy something new and then try re-selling it, because now it's considered used. However, if you buy a piece of gear used, take it home and end up not liking it, well the condition hasn't changed much and you can probably turn around and sell it for the same price.

[pelliott]

Think it through from my perspective. Nobody else I know is into this music. At all. I come here because while I might not have too much overlap in interest within the genre with other posters, this is the one place where I can feel fairly confident that nobody's gonna give me the stinkeye because I like music that moves more slowly than a sloth on tranquilizers. And when someone says in that supposedly-understanding place that they don't like a particular band (put aside for the moment that Sabbath is historically significant for the development of the genre - I can recognize that without liking their music), the *kindest* responses are a patronizing "don't worry, you'll grow into it" (as if my ears at 40 are somehow not yet mature), and range from there down to basically "there's something wrong with you." How would you feel, if you were me?

Buddy, you're preaching to the choir. I understand where you're coming from, but no one here is actually judging you. We're all in the same boat to some extent in terms of people that relate to us on a musical level. Everyone is either just joking around with you or, to some degree, not actually expecting you to magically like Sabbath. You're still one of the gang no matter how inexcusably bad your taste in music is (KIDDING, ONLY KIDDING ). We're just gonna riff (get it?!) on each other like college roommates.

I don't actually expect everyone here to like my favorite bands. I like Zeppelin, Baroness, and a lot of other bands I know for a fact a lot of people here don't like. It doesn't actually bother me.

We're not gonna act like you're committing a crime here, you're one of us, one of us, one of us

[Kacey Y]

I don't think it's that strange a thing to not like the artists who developed the prototype for something you enjoy. The significance of those artists is usually completely about context and context isn't something you can directly experience, you can only be told about it. Lenny Bruce was really important to the development of modern standup comedy. People like Patton Oswalt or Louie CK couldn't do what they're doing, without him doing what he did first. If a fan of one of those two modern comedians were to watch a clip of Lenny Bruce's comedy from the 60's, without being told how much they're supposed to like him and what an important influence he was, they might not laugh once. Someone who loves modern death metal could listen to the first Death album and think it sounds low quality, simple and sloppy. Someone who loves sludge or doom metal could listen to Black Sabbath and think it sounds like grandpa's music. The progenitors of something new are radicals in their day, tomorrow they're old fashioned. Just a fact of life and art, I think. People take their influences, elaborate on them and add other newer concepts. A typical doom metal guitarist of today might not be as talented and nuanced as Iommi, but if he's taking away some basic influences from him while tuning lower and playing with a more aggressive tone, that might appeal more to someone who has a taste for that musical aesthetic.

Personally I like things old and new, I'm not particularly hung up in something being up to date with production or style with every kind of music I enjoy. I enjoy Sabbath on its own merits and appreciate what their context in the development of modern heavy music was. Still I don't hold it against anyone else for not being into them if they were introduced to modern heavy music FIRST, because you can't hear cultural/historical context. You might not be able to have the bands that those people enjoy without Sabbath, but that doesn't effect the reality of the listening experience for them.

[pelliott]

I don't really like Bill Hicks or Pink Floyd or Converge. Come at me.

[conky]

The only two standup shows I have ever seen that I didn't laugh once the whole way through were Dane Cook and Louie CK.

[Krosis]

Quick derp questions about cab impedance:

If my amp is 8 ohm and I want a 2x12 cab, should I get a 8ohm cab so that both speakers are running at 4 ohms? Or should I get a 16 ohm cab and then would both speakers run at 8?

Am I even in the ballpark on how this works?

[D.o.S.]

I don't really like Bill Hicks or Pink Floyd or Converge. Come at me.

I don't get converge.

Consider yourself Come At otherwise.

[pelliott]

Quick derp questions about cab impedance:

If my amp is 8 ohm and I want a 2x12 cab, should I get a 8ohm cab so that both speakers are running at 4 ohms? Or should I get a 16 ohm cab and then would both speakers run at 8?

Am I even in the ballpark on how this works?

I think two 16 ohm speakers is what you're looking for. Someone else weigh in, please. PLEASE.

[HeavyXIII]

Quick derp questions about cab impedance:

If my amp is 8 ohm and I want a 2x12 cab, should I get a 8ohm cab so that both speakers are running at 4 ohms? Or should I get a 16 ohm cab and then would both speakers run at 8?

Am I even in the ballpark on how this works?

I think two 16 ohm speakers is what you're looking for. Someone else weigh in, please. PLEASE.

I think you'd want to match the impedance, if possible. Essentially, you also want the cabinet to be 8 ohms. That means you can either: A) wire 2, 16 ohm speakers in parallel OR B) wire 2, 4 ohm speakers in series. Either will create an 8 ohm load.

Can your amp be switched to a different impedance?

[ryan summit]

i fell asleep posting at 2am
it was something about emotional rollercoaster