The Doom Room: ILF Edition

[D.o.S.]

I believe, actually, that they're awesome full stop.

[spawnofthesith]

How many dudes didn't make the migration?

I've been registered here for a couple years, but only rediscovered this doom section recently. Finally something to fill the huge void left by the HC doom room


Mostly been on guitar amp board and sso since that site took a shit

[Iommic Pope]

Neurosis. Awesome. Full stop.

I think Steve's dirt is a rat into the grit channel of his Mark, a Distortion+ into the Fender, and he has a midi switcher for going between patches of dirt and their associated amp channels.
As Skip said, complex.

[odontophobia]

Also, new Pilgrim album is streaming at Pitchfork: http://pitchfork.com/advance/381-ii-void-worship/

Oh shit!

Thanks for the link.

Checking these guys live in a few weeks and I'm very stoked for it.

[celticelk]

Also, new Pilgrim album is streaming at Pitchfork: http://pitchfork.com/advance/381-ii-void-worship/

Oh shit!

Thanks for the link.

Checking these guys live in a few weeks and I'm very stoked for it.

Are they playing near us, or are you road tripping for the show?

[D.o.S.]

Neurosis. Awesome. Full stop.

I think Steve's dirt is a rat into the grit channel of his Mark, a Distortion+ into the Fender, and he has a midi switcher for going between patches of dirt and their associated amp channels.
As Skip said, complex.

There's also the whole tuning a half-step off from each other thing.

[Iommic Pope]

Is it that? I thought sometimes Scott played in like drop A, rest standard and Steve played in open Drop A (which would create mismatches of whole tones across a couple of the strings, yes)?

[t-rey]

Forgot a second cable so I wasn't able to run a dual rig but the Matamp on its own sounds so huge.

So. Much. Win.

Should I drop 400 on this laney aor 100 or save up for a model t?
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/ms ... 85023.html

Having never played either amp, I would go with the Laney if you could talk him down a little bit. Model T's are just too overpriced these days.

Soooooo...... I'm unfortunately losing the Dunwich Wizard.....

Hello new 200w Bass Friendly 4xKT88 Friend!!!!!

At first I was all , but then I was all

[D.o.S.]

Is it that? I thought sometimes Scott played in like drop A, rest standard and Steve played in open Drop A (which would create mismatches of whole tones across a couple of the strings, yes)?

Scott stays in drop-D tuning, and commonly drops his low E string down to an A. I play in DADGAD—except for any songs that are in the key of A—and I drop the low D down to an A so that I have an octave in A on the bottom two strings.

http://www.guitarplayer.com/artists/1013/neurosis/21307

So there you have it, the dissonance comes from the note choice, but they're not actually playing the same thing a half step apart on the same fret. Unless it's on the high strings.

Also, for the biters who are lurking for tips on making the heavies, that means low-to-high you tune your guitars like this:

Scott: DADGBE and AADGBE
Steve: DADGAD and AADGAD

[D.o.S.]

Also:

What kind of gear do you use?

Kelly: I play a ’93 Gibson Les Paul Studio with a Duncan Distortion pickup being the only mod. My amp is a Marshall JCM 800, and I use these unbelievably powerful, handmade custom cabs from EarCandy in Indiana. The frequency range is stunning. Every note is totally articulated. There’s bottom-of-the-barrel growl, but throw in a high note, and it’s super clear. Typically, I play straight with a touch of delay, but I sometimes use an MXR Flanger, Blue Box, or EVH Phaser. Both Steve and I use Dunlop Ultex .60mm and green Tortex .88mm picks.

Steve, your rig is a little more complex.

Von Till: I call it the “chain of death!” My main guitars are no-nonsense, Strat-style guitars built from Warmoth parts. I wanted something that would be warm with a lot of sustain, so the necks are fat, the frets are huge, and there’s no wood cut away for pickguards or tremolo units. I installed a Seymour Duncan Distortion pickup in the bridge position, and a Bartolini in the neck—both wired with TRS outputs so the signals can be routed to my custom switcher. On Rising, I used my new custom Tele-style made from Warmoth parts, and further customized by Keith Holland in Los Gatos, California. There’s no finish or pickguard—just an oil rub—so there’s nothing to suck the tone out. It also has a baseball bat for a neck, really big frets, and, along with the traditional Tele-style bridge and neck pickups, a Gibson P-90 in the middle position.

My custom switcher—which was originally built with old Rockman MIDI Octopus units, and later modified by John Joseph of Dredge Tone—allows me to select which pickup signal is active, turn the true-bypass effects loop for my floor pedals on and off, switch amp channels, and select from a series of rack-mounted distortion pedals for each of my two amplifiers. Everything is managed with a custom MIDI foot controller. Some of the pedals I use are the MXR Phase 90 and Blue Box, a MoogerFooger MF-101 Lowpass Filter and MF-102 Ring Modulator, a Dunlop Uni-Vibe, and an Electro-Harmonix Bass Micro Synthesizer. The signal is routed to my two amps—a Mesa/Boogie Mark IV with an old-style Mesa cab and a Fender ’65 Twin Reverb Reissue combo—which I run simultaneously. I use all three channels on the Boogie independently: the Lead channel with a vintage Pro Co Rat for full gain, the Rhythm II channel without the Rat for “half” distortion, and the Rhythm I channel for clean, pretty stuff.

The Boogie has a lot of character, and the lead tone is like Skynyrd on low-end steroids. It has all this resonance, and the distortion kind of reaches back before it brings the hammer down. It’s not a delay, but it almost feels like the speakers have to take a breath before that exhale. I owe that to the old Boogie 4x12 cabinet, which is deeper and shorter than their new cabs, as well as having the bottom speakers in a sealed enclosure, and the top pair set in an open-back configuration. The Fender is pretty clear, so I run it with another Rat for full-bore gain, and an MXR Distortion Plus for “half gain.”

Pretty soon, I’ll be switching to a Bob Bradshaw system to control everything. I have been totally hooked on the tonal options two amps offer for almost 20 years. I don’t think I’ll ever go back to a single amp.

[Iommic Pope]

Ah, that was it. Thanks mang, knew it was something like that.
That tuning also works for fans of Mastodon....who ripped the dropping the low string to A thing off of Neurosis.

Also, that article on the chain of death was the one I was thinking of.
Such a cool rig.
Goes to show, there is NO archetypal gear for anything or any sound.

[t-rey]

Ah, that was it. Thanks mang, knew it was something like that.
That tuning also works for fans of Mastodon....who ripped the dropping the low string to A thing off of Neurosis.

Also, that article on the chain of death was the one I was thinking of.
Such a cool rig.
Goes to show, there is NO archetypal gear for anything or any sound.

So you mean I bought this SG for nothing? FUCK!

[Iommic Pope]

I know, right? I feel like I grew my beard for nothing, too.
Since having it, I don't feel ANY doomier, and I am yet to be engaged in wizard battle, or have a large breasted warrior princess throw herself at me to aid her in a quest to vanquish her kingdom of the evil Serpent Lord.

What a rip off.
You know what?
Fuck this genre, I'm gonna get a wig and some snakeskin pants and try power metal for a while.

[D.o.S.]

I am yet to be engaged in wizard battle, or have a large breasted warrior princess through herself at me to aid her in a quest to vanquish her kingdom of the evil Serpent Lord.

I'm calling bullshit on that.

[Iommic Pope]

Pissing up a wall with a homeless guy behind a venue is close to, but sadly, just short of qualifying for a wizard fight.
Wait....he may not have been homeless.....and that may have been a mirror....

Also:
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