Let's see your PEDAL BOARD!

[le lambin]

would it be a bad idea to put the DBA feedback loop and the Chase MIDI Box on the same PSU? i might be able to fit two, but it's getting a bit tight under my desk stand that the pedals sit on.

boop?

I’ve been in a similar situation and had to daisy chain a digital EHX pedal and an analog one- it was fine. No buzzing, no hum, nothing. I think it is pedal dependent- you’ll have to try it out and see what happens. Worst case, CIOKS makes a 4 output expander for the dc-7 that’s not too expensive.

[behndy]

hah. forgot i actually have one those on a PT Nano tucked away. will swap to that if the daisy chain is funky.

jia. i remember it being digital with analog loot was the issue? but that was wayyyy back. things are much cleaner and verbose now i guess? i'm OLD.

[behndy]

sooooo.... i have NEVER figured out how to get pictures to fit on ILF posts. i always put up clickable links but... how do?

- thorough instructions -

jia. i don't post enough pics here to be arses with resizing that meticulously. but thank you very much for the explanation suh!

[behndy]

so... two mebbe silly or ridiculously specific questions -

01) i use a VP Jr (with the Dan Etched Bjork Top Panel) for expression pedal duties (heh. DOOTY.), is there a cable based way to send it to two pedals? or do i need a buffer box splitter?

02) one of the things i miss the most that i wish i had held on to is the Infanem phaser. i like that sound better than a filter sweep usually. is there a pedal out there that -

a) sounds similar
b) comes in a small box
c) REALLY REALLY WANT TOP JACKS
d) has a sweep with expression pedal option
e) has an envelope option

boop?

[behndy]

murrrrrrrrr kind of looks like the Strymon Zelzah is everything i want. lol. except the small box. but. whatever. going to try that?

REALLY MISS MY INFANEM.

[le lambin]

so... two mebbe silly or ridiculously specific questions -

01) i use a VP Jr (with the Dan Etched Bjork Top Panel) for expression pedal duties (heh. DOOTY.), is there a cable based way to send it to two pedals? or do i need a buffer box splitter?

02) one of the things i miss the most that i wish i had held on to is the Infanem phaser. i like that sound better than a filter sweep usually. is there a pedal out there that -

a) sounds similar
b) comes in a small box
c) REALLY REALLY WANT TOP JACKS
d) has a sweep with expression pedal option
e) has an envelope option

boop?

You know, I got an OBNE signal blender a while back and had this idea to split an expression pedal output into 3 outputs- I thought maybe since the blender is essentially a 3 way buffered split, I would be able to do this. But alas, I emailed obne and they confirmed it can only split audio signals, not exp. As far as I know, a conventional buffered split won’t work. I guess that makes sense since an exp signal is different from audio or cv, but that’s the extent of my engineering knowledge. I know co-pilot used to make an exp splitter, maybe they still do? It was the only game in town last I checked, aside from that monstrously expensive mission engineering thing.

[le lambin]

Also source audio makes a dual expression pedal that’s not too expensive- ehx also if you don’t mind plastic

[behndy]

hah! yeah. have an off brand dual expression pedal coming in. Paint Audio? read up on trying to double/split an exp pedal out and... blurg. just grab a cheapie to see if i dig it.

[Dr. Sherman Sticks M.D.]

yea i think its a lil more complex with splitting EXP pedal
just the way EXP is typically setup
bc u are receiving power from the pedal itself sending thru the expression port to the exp pedal
which goes thru the pot on the expression pedal and back into the pedal ie voltage divider

so like if u split it u are essentially receiving power from two sources going thru the same voltage divider pot
i dunno if that would work normally and i dunno if that would even be safe without some extra something to keep the power lines from doing something weird with each other

for comparison with CV it would be different because the voltage is coming from the source (not from hte pedal) so splitting it would be fairly elementary

[dubkitty]

in his incarnation as MOM-D Pedals, Schlatte designed a multiple expression pedal controller that uses Arduino to control stuff. i bought something off him in BST this fall, and he still has some of them. hit him up.

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[dubkitty]

well, after 6 months of struggle my full setup is finally nearing completion. the main board is as done as i can get it. i weeded through my 17 dirt and fuzz pedals to pick out the five that i like best, went best together, and suited my approach the most. replaced my first-year Polytune with a Peterson Strobostomp (god, i hate that name) because it's 3 times as accurate. i doubt i'll ever use any of the features now that i've set the display color to a nice soothing blue. holy fuck, does it ever have a big screen. i could read it standing up without my spectacles, and i'm extremely nearsighted. i also got a Keeley Realizer to supplant the Catalinbread Soft Focus; it does about as good a job as the Soft Focus of getting the Yamaha SPX900 #40 patch right, and also includes a terrific rendition of the SPX90's reverse reverb, which is actually a delay with extremely quick hang time and a weird envelope. that's the odd clattering on the tremolo guitar intro to "Slow" by My Bloody Valentine. so all my rack delays except the MidiVerb II are now obsolete.

much of this has been pretty well set in stone for a long time, the filter-and-modulation module in particular. the Distortion+ is the first pedal i ever bought, and predates me ever having a board. the flanger is the second pedal i ever bought and has also been on every board i've ever had, and when i got the Randy's Revenge and Villanova they got in their board spots and settled in like fish on a reef. the Great Wall has been on every board since i first got it, and the Ghost Echo is a permanent resident at the far end of the chain. the chorus and phaser were the last mods i acquired, and i was careful to pick out ones i'd be satisfied with and am seldom tempted by different options. the CH-1 in particular is Megan Thee Chorus to me. the tremolo, delay, and stunt reverb have all been reconfigured repeatedly; hopefully now i can quit fucking with this stuff for awhile.

Peterson Strobostomp tuner->1978 MXR Distortion+ (center tier, far right)->CMC Effects Tonebender MKIII->Fuzzhugger Algal Bloom->CMC Effects Buzzaround->Fuzzhugger 3-knob Great Wall (center tier, second from right)->EMMA Discumbobulator envelope filter->MojoHand FX Villanova optical Univibe->Fairfield Circuitry Randy's Revenge v1 ring modulator->TC Electronics SCF chorus/flanger/etc. (always in flanger mode)(center tier, far left)->Boss CH-1 chorus->Ibanez PM7 Phase Modulator->Menatone Pleasure Trem 5000 tremolo->Zvex Sonar tremolo (center tier, second from left)->EHX Canyon delay->TC Flashback v1 delay->Keeley Realizer reverb->EQD Ghost Echo v1 reverb.

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[dubkitty]

the looping board had to be rearranged. i was trying to have a box built that would allow me to send any of the 3 loopers' outputs to an effects loop with a volume pedal in it so i could fade out loops without having to bend down to the floor, but Saturnworks declined saying they were too busy. OK then. so i thought about it and realized that a second Ernie Ball 6165 volume/pan pedal like the one used to select the A and B inputs would allow me to select and fade the A and B loopers' outputs and it looked like it was doable. everything barely fit. this was probably the most radical shoehorning job i've ever done...everything on the bottom tier is absolutely rammed together except the pan pedals which have to have a bit of space between them so they don't interfere with each other's treadles. the input plug for the 1440 sticks out about 3 mm from the edge of the board; IIRC the hard case is pretty tight on the sides so i may have to pull that plug to box up the board. i used a longer-than-strictly-necessary cable to connect the C looper (1440) to the summing box so i can pull it out and connect the mini volume pedal that used to sit on the deck to the right of the 1440. i haven't used the 1440 much yet. it's meant to be used as a library of prepared loopy bits to play over a la Discreet Music and i don't have the stuff needed to prepare loops yet. it also has a 99-second automated fade-out function so i can probably get away with using it without a output fader for now. i still need to install the power supply and wire everything up. i swapped the power supplies between the front-end and looping boards because the Gator power supply wouldn't fit on the looping board with the new layout and is too heavy to dependably mount under the deck assuming it even fit. seriously, if i threw it out the apartment window it might kill someone if it hit them in the head. the Gator appears to barely fit on the FEB's deck...i can't be certain until the two missing pedals arrive and one won't be here for at least a month. but this is 2/3 of the entire vast project sorted, and in a few weeks the third board will also be done.

looping board path: Saturnworks 1-to-3 isolated splitting box (top, far right)->2 outputs to A/B input pan pedal (right), 1 output directly to 1440->input pan pedal outs to A and B loopers->A and B looper outputs to A/B output pan pedal (left)->pan pedal outputs + 1440 output to Saturnworks 3-into-1 isolated summing box (to right of pan pedals)->Keeley Bassist Limiting Amplifier.

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[dubkitty]

i mounted the Truetone CS6 power supply under the deck of the looping board and powered it up. everything worked perfectly. when i can start from scratch i can avoid mistakes. next i wired the two boards together: no good. this irritated me because the main board had been working when i tested it last night. after a fair bit of sleuthing i was able to diagnose 2 problematic cables, between the tuner and D+ and the volume pedal and the big board. i have a standard diagnostic for the main board...first i check to see that everything is getting power and that none of the signal cables have backed out of their jacks which sometimes happens when cables and boxes are squeezed in tight. then i plug the guitar into the chorus to see it the top tier is working OK. if so, next i pull up the envelope filter and plug the guitar into it. if it works, then i know the problem's in the fuzz module and start pulling stuff off starting from the tuner until i get signal through at least some of the fuzz array. at least they were simple to fix, if not to find. i finally got everything up and running. look at the pretty lights.

i think i need to work on a cable management solution.

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[coldbrightsunlight]

Things are looking very neat!!! The quest nears its end

[dubkitty]

i don't know if the Realizer is going to stick. its Soft Focus patch sounds weird compared to the Catalinbread. i'll have to A/B them, and i'm not doing it today. in general the Realizer is kind of strange...there's something i'm not getting here. back to the demos...

i did sit down and spend some time looping earlier this evening and am pretty pleased with things other than the uncertainty in the Stunt Reverb chair. i used the Realizer Soft Focus setting and it made cool atmospheres. it'll take a bit for me to get everything properly set up, but i think this is solid. but then, that's what the French said about the Maginot Line.