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Tall Walls · Post by **Tall Walls** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 2:05 am

Loki shared a link to the Beebo "loopler" module beta in the Poly Fb group. I haven't spent much time with it, but at first blush it appears that you can't do very much if you don't have a full-on MIDI setup. I can record a loop, but accessing all of the insert/substitute/multiply/etc. functions by poking at the screen while also playing isn't practical. So do I invest in some MIDI controller with a buttload of switches so I can really use this module? Signs point to no. Increasingly I'm just using the Beebo for the convolution reverbs. But even there, the stereo reverb module only has a mono input, so if I'm sending a stereo signal into the Beebo I end up using two mono reverbs. Which sounds nice enough but it's not the same. I'm feeling more and more iffy about the Beebo.

manymanyhaha · Post by **manymanyhaha** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:11 am

Tall Walls wrote:Loki shared a link to the Beebo "loopler" module beta in the Poly Fb group. I haven't spent much time with it, but at first blush it appears that you can't do very much if you don't have a full-on MIDI setup. I can record a loop, but accessing all of the insert/substitute/multiply/etc. functions by poking at the screen while also playing isn't practical. So do I invest in some MIDI controller with a buttload of switches so I can really use this module? Signs point to no. Increasingly I'm just using the Beebo for the convolution reverbs. But even there, the stereo reverb module only has a mono input, so if I'm sending a stereo signal into the Beebo I end up using two mono reverbs. Which sounds nice enough but it's not the same. I'm feeling more and more iffy about the Beebo.

Loki is one of the best, can't say enough kind things about him.

The Digit/Poly are really great ideas and I love the 4 in/4 out small form factor but everything I tried in them was buggy: Stuff just wouldn't work like I had planned it out. Having said that, he made a lot of remarkable improvements over the year or so that I had them, to the point where I had started to reconsider selling them when I did. Loki doesn't stop, he keeps moving forward.

The EDP required a foot controller too. Truth is, to do EDP style looping requires a foot controller for all of those commands.

gila_crisis · Post by **gila_crisis** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:33 am

Tall Walls wrote:Loki shared a link to the Beebo "loopler" module beta in the Poly Fb group. I haven't spent much time with it, but at first blush it appears that you can't do very much if you don't have a full-on MIDI setup. I can record a loop, but accessing all of the insert/substitute/multiply/etc. functions by poking at the screen while also playing isn't practical. So do I invest in some MIDI controller with a buttload of switches so I can really use this module? Signs point to no. Increasingly I'm just using the Beebo for the convolution reverbs. But even there, the stereo reverb module only has a mono input, so if I'm sending a stereo signal into the Beebo I end up using two mono reverbs. Which sounds nice enough but it's not the same. I'm feeling more and more iffy about the Beebo.

Check out the Disaster Area Midi Baby 3, I have one which I use to control a Pigtronix Infinity.

Tall Walls · Post by **Tall Walls** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:51 am

I'm not dissing Loki or even the Beebo, and I wasn't surprised that the Beebo loopler needs an external controller, but it made me confront my own limitations regarding how much time, thought, and money I'm willing/able to invest in this device. The EDP controller has seven switches, and it seems like you could easily want more. Maybe I could get by with the MIDI Baby plus the Beebo's own switches. But I think I don't know what I want from EDP-style looping, and that's probably the more essential problem.

codetocontra · Post by **codetocontra** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:38 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DnMpmd3HU[/youtube]

lumena · Post by **lumena** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:17 pm

nice catch! I like the simplicity. thanks for helping my gas.

manymanyhaha · Post by **manymanyhaha** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:55 pm

Tall Walls wrote:I'm not dissing Loki or even the Beebo.

Apologies, wasn't suggesting that you were

I haven't spent a ton of time, yet, with the Insert/Multiple etc EDP style functions in Mobius but I have been looking forward to exploring it more, lots of creative possibilities there

lumena · Post by **lumena** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:15 pm

[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUouVOwSXA[/youtube]
This guy has all the tricks - most apply to Mobius.

Seance · Post by **Seance** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:35 pm

lumena wrote:[youtube] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUouVOwSXA[/youtube]
This guy has all the tricks - most apply to Mobius.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLUouVOwSXA[/youtube]

codetocontra · Post by **codetocontra** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:46 pm

Dude is the EDP guru. His videos were vital for my own understanding. Has a great teacherly quality to his demonstrations. Highly recommended.

Tall Walls · Post by **Tall Walls** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:07 pm

manymanyhaha wrote:Apologies, wasn't suggesting that you were

Oh no worries, I just wanted to make myself clear in case Loki is lurking. I'm very impressed by the work he's put into Beebo.

codetocontra wrote:Dude is the EDP guru. His videos were vital for my own understanding. Has a great teacherly quality to his demonstrations. Highly recommended.

And he's a Jandek fan! But seeing his videos has caused another quandary for me, to wit: that Behringer board with ten footswitches and two expression pedals seems like the perfect way to exploit the Beebo's capabilities, and it costs about the same as Disaster Area's three-switch MIDI Baby. But...Behringer. What to do.

Seance · Post by **Seance** » Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:49 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCGUemsieTI[/youtube]

codetocontra wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DnMpmd3HU[/youtube]

This is definitely intriguing.

gila_crisis · Post by **gila_crisis** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:55 am

I did check out the demos of the Soma Cosmos.
On a way I find it nice, but to me it's way too specialized into these frippentronics/Steve Reich kind of loop mangling.
And the whole advertisement about how wonderful it is as a meditation machine, pulls it into the new age/hippy depertment

JM Charcot · Post by **JM Charcot** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:06 am

gila_crisis wrote:I did check out the demos of the Soma Cosmos.
On a way I find it nice, but to me it's way too specialized into these frippentronics/Steve Reich kind of loop mangling.
And the whole advertisement about how wonderful it is as a meditation machine, pulls it into the new age/hippy depertment

distortion and fuzz between your bow and the Cosmos should take you out of new age territory

gila_crisis · Post by **gila_crisis** » Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:38 am

JM Charcot wrote:
gila_crisis wrote:I did check out the demos of the Soma Cosmos.
On a way I find it nice, but to me it's way too specialized into these frippentronics/Steve Reich kind of loop mangling.
And the whole advertisement about how wonderful it is as a meditation machine, pulls it into the new age/hippy depertment
distortion and fuzz between your bow and the Cosmos should take you out of new age territory

I dunno... from what I heard I could easily fake it on my HX Stomp, creating a preset using 3 delays. nothing too esoteric...

ilovefuzz.com

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