Gasalcoholics anonymous? whoever said this was a help group?

[Chankgeez]

[Strange Tales]

Sorry to offend any modular-heads here, but I fucking hate the trend. More expensive than the most expensive pedals, total rich hipster shit, bank account inversely proportionate to talent level, and after all the investment and hype, it's just a bunch of bleep-blop with an ironic moustache and trust fund. Of course that's not everyone who's into modular, but fuck at least be reasonably skilled on keyboards before you go down the synth rabbit hole.

wot.

[John]

None of that is modular exclusive re: musical instruments and gear.

Sure it is! OK yes you can spend too much on guitar/bass/drums/flugelhorn gear. But then you have to at least be able to execute a power chord or something, to at least look like you know what you're doing. Douchebag in the coffee shop just twiddles some knobs, plugs wires into different holes, and as long as his beard/glasses/shitty flannel combo look is just right he looks like a mad scientist while the machines are doing the lifting for him. It's consumer culture without any real input from the human. Of course a talented person can do more with it, but how can you even tell unless they're Thomas Dolby or something? Just seems trendy and spendy and nothing else. A way for people who have run out of ideas to keep investing in their dream. I don't mean to say that every musician has to be a virtuoso at all; I grew up with punk rock, ok? But there was creativity and human interaction, not Zoloft and a big rack of doodads.

[Teej212]

music is secondary to making bleep-blops when it comes to ILF

[Inconuucl]

music is secondary to making bleep-blops when it comes to ILF

[friendship]

death to false bleep-blop

[John]

death to false bleep-blop

[UglyCasanova]

None of that is modular exclusive re: musical instruments and gear.

Sure it is! OK yes you can spend too much on guitar/bass/drums/flugelhorn gear. But then you have to at least be able to execute a power chord or something, to at least look like you know what you're doing. Douchebag in the coffee shop just twiddles some knobs, plugs wires into different holes, and as long as his beard/glasses/shitty flannel combo look is just right he looks like a mad scientist while the machines are doing the lifting for him. It's consumer culture without any real input from the human. Of course a talented person can do more with it, but how can you even tell unless they're Thomas Dolby or something? Just seems trendy and spendy and nothing else. A way for people who have run out of ideas to keep investing in their dream. I don't mean to say that every musician has to be a virtuoso at all; I grew up with punk rock, ok? But there was creativity and human interaction, not Zoloft and a big rack of doodads.

Point on the doll, where did the hipster touch you?

[Chankgeez]

Douchebag in the coffee shop

That's the name of our new band(, but you'll need yo' Distortion X).

Either that or "Flugelhorny".

[D.o.S.]

None of that is modular exclusive re: musical instruments and gear.

Sure it is! OK yes you can spend too much on guitar/bass/drums/flugelhorn gear. But then you have to at least be able to execute a power chord or something, to at least look like you know what you're doing. Douchebag in the coffee shop just twiddles some knobs, plugs wires into different holes, and as long as his beard/glasses/shitty flannel combo look is just right he looks like a mad scientist while the machines are doing the lifting for him. It's consumer culture without any real input from the human. Of course a talented person can do more with it, but how can you even tell unless they're Thomas Dolby or something? Just seems trendy and spendy and nothing else. A way for people who have run out of ideas to keep investing in their dream. I don't mean to say that every musician has to be a virtuoso at all; I grew up with punk rock, ok? But there was creativity and human interaction, not Zoloft and a big rack of doodads.

Oh, no, I totally feel you, but this is, in a lot of ways, the Live at Pompeii thing, right?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOF_PnUATvU[/youtube]

"It's like saying, Give a man a Les Paul guitar and he becomes Eric Clapton. It's just not true. Give a man an amplifier and a synthesizer and he doesn't become us either."

[UglyCasanova]

I also love that you, John, counter it with punk culture, where creativity is measured by how fast you can strum a power chord within a beat and talent is based on how much of a bad ass/idiot you are. "Sweet mohawk/leather jacket/scar/face tattoo, comrade! Love how you slid from a G to an A and back to a G. That strumming was like reminiscent of shooting heroin into my eyeball. Fuck capitalism and consumerism, lets go get some mass produced cheap beer as these songs of unimaginable creativity won't write themselves!"

What I tried doing there is saying that every scene has an archtype and people/idiots who jump on that and take it to the extreme, creating stereotypes. If those people are what stand in your way of having fun and doing what you really want to do, that's your fault, not theirs, imho.

[neonblack]

Just got my Uverbia reverb in. Holy shit this thing rips. I have to leave for work in a few minutes so I haven't had time to really dive in. Basically just cranked it and starting blasting. Plenty of gain and volume. And the voicing switch makes a huge difference. Sharp cutting surfy verb to fuzzwalls with the flick of a switch

It's like the rm-1n for the man who doesn't drone. I mean, it can drone but it mostly just rips.

[John]

I also love that you, John, counter it with punk culture, where creativity is measured by how fast you can strum a power chord within a beat and talent is based on how much of a bad ass/idiot you are. "Sweet mohawk/leather jacket/scar/face tattoo, comrade! Love how you slid from a G to an A and back to a G. That strumming was like reminiscent of shooting heroin into my eyeball. Fuck capitalism and consumerism, lets go get some mass produced cheap beer as these songs of unimaginable creativity won't write themselves!"

Point on the doll, where did the punk rocker touch you?


U Mad about punk in 2016? I take it you were born in the 80's or later. You poor thing, you think punk was NOFX/MXPX/SucxDix etc.

this is punk

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtK_4gyf0M[/youtube]

[D.o.S.]

I also love that you, John, counter it with punk culture, where creativity is measured by how fast you can strum a power chord within a beat and talent is based on how much of a bad ass/idiot you are. "Sweet mohawk/leather jacket/scar/face tattoo, comrade! Love how you slid from a G to an A and back to a G. That strumming was like reminiscent of shooting heroin into my eyeball. Fuck capitalism and consumerism, lets go get some mass produced cheap beer as these songs of unimaginable creativity won't write themselves!"

What I tried doing there is saying that every scene has an archtype and people/idiots who jump on that and take it to the extreme, creating stereotypes. If those people are what stand in your way of having fun and doing what you really want to do, that's your fault, not theirs, imho.

EHHHH.

I want to agree and I do, in some ways (people should be looking to create music that they like and fuck everyone else), but there is, definitely, a lot of "this sort" of music that revolves around "I make the music I make because I can afford the things that go bleep bloop in the cool way."

I think we all agree here that the ideas should be informing the equipment, instead of vice versa, and if you've really got your own aesthetic/style it should be able to shine through regardless of the equipment you use (which is what people mean by 'tone is in the fingers').

[lordgalvar]

I also love that you, John, counter it with punk culture, where creativity is measured by how fast you can strum a power chord within a beat and talent is based on how much of a bad ass/idiot you are. "Sweet mohawk/leather jacket/scar/face tattoo, comrade! Love how you slid from a G to an A and back to a G. That strumming was like reminiscent of shooting heroin into my eyeball. Fuck capitalism and consumerism, lets go get some mass produced cheap beer as these songs of unimaginable creativity won't write themselves!"

What I tried doing there is saying that every scene has an archtype and people/idiots who jump on that and take it to the extreme, creating stereotypes. If those people are what stand in your way of having fun and doing what you really want to do, that's your fault, not theirs, imho.

But I try really hard....